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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ports from GPL
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:17:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cde6b6054283041068a72a39cc843912@quanstro.net> (raw)

yes. gnu really did loose their way.

too bad. the early stuff was quite good. gnu
grep, (hi mike) for example, didn't have the limitations of
grep on sunos or xinu bsd.

now gnu grep is so broken that
	LC_LANG=utf8 grep fu j-random-file
is 80x slower than
	LC_LANG=C grep fu j-random-file

this is not entirely gnu's fault. posix confuses
locale and character set.

coreutils (which includes /bin/cp) has a 40k-line library
with over 1k preprocessor conditionals. even with that
library:

; wc -l /var/tmp/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.1/src/cat.c $home/9.cd/sys/src/cmd/cat.c
  861 /var/tmp/coreutils/coreutils-5.2.1/src/cat.c
   36 /home/quanstro/9.cd/sys/src/cmd/cat.c
  897 total

no wonder it's not very portable.

- erik

On Fri Mar 17 09:48:19 CST 2006, rminnich@lanl.gov wrote:
> erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > however gnu has devolved.
>
> degenerated.
>
> It occured to me the other day that tex has way more useful things to
> say about portability than, say, gnu /bin/cp.
>
> Tex seems to run on anything that has an ALU and a program counter and
> more than 20 bits of address space.
>
> ron


             reply	other threads:[~2006-03-17 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-17 16:17 erik quanstrom [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-21  1:56 erik quanstrom
2006-03-21  3:43 ` dmr
2006-03-18 19:01 erik quanstrom
2006-03-18 14:14 erik quanstrom
2006-03-18 18:47 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-18 14:03 erik quanstrom
2006-03-18  2:03 dmr
2006-03-18  6:12 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-18  6:24   ` Tim Wiess
2006-03-18  6:36     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-18 13:31       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-18 13:30   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-18 16:28 ` George Michaelson
2006-03-18 23:13   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-19  1:03     ` geoff
2006-03-17 15:25 erik quanstrom
2006-03-17 15:21 Mike Haertel
2006-03-17 15:12 erik quanstrom
2006-03-17 14:11 erik quanstrom
2006-03-17 14:22 ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-17 15:40 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-18  0:39 ` geoff
2006-03-18  0:59   ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-18  1:16   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-18  1:18     ` George Michaelson
2006-03-19 14:43   ` David Leimbach
2006-03-20  2:18     ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-20  3:39       ` uriel
2006-03-20 11:50         ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-20 20:00       ` Aharon Robbins
2006-03-21  2:41         ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-20 19:50     ` Aharon Robbins
2006-03-20 19:59       ` George Michaelson
2006-03-21 23:43       ` Jack Johnson
2006-03-16  8:11 Fernan Bolando
2006-03-16 13:03 ` Anthony Sorace
2006-03-16 16:50   ` Jack Johnson
2006-03-17  1:05   ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-17 11:33     ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-17 12:03       ` Axel Belinfante
2006-03-17 15:39       ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-20  3:44         ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-20  3:50           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-20  4:11             ` Russ Cox
2006-03-20  8:13           ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-24  5:29         ` ems
2006-03-24  7:49           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-24 17:14           ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-24 17:34             ` erik quanstrom
2006-03-24 18:11             ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-03-24 18:09               ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-24 18:26                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-03-26  9:14             ` ems

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