From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:49:20 +0200 From: dante To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: References: <1fc1c403eaecd8cae89f761a68b0d605@posteo.de> <033df8386d47dcbca83387af82fbc4a7@posteo.de> Message-ID: User-Agent: Posteo Webmail Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository Topicbox-Message-UUID: 06ca3d1a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Usable, not bureaucratic. And you don't need to invest work. Just use it if you like it. Take a look at how it works now. Is this OK with you? 1. "/n/sources/contrib/fgb/root/rc/bin/contrib/install fgb/contrib" Why do I need to know about "fgb", why not=20 "/n/sources/packages/contrib/rc/bin/contrib/install contrib ? 2. bichued/hg -- 1.0.2 jas/hg-src mjl/hgfs stallion/mercurial -- 2.2.3 Which one now? 3. What about=20 http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/software_for_Plan_9/ ? What about the broken links there? Can we still save that software? Archive.org? Regards, Dante P.S. I knew that I will receive a certain amount of=20 conservative/negative answers for questioning the Status Quo. I also got some very helpful ones, see Eric. Maybe this is the right moment to ask such questions. For years, Plan9 was hard to install on common hardware, lacking=20 drivers (I tried more than once and failed). This all changed with Raspberry Pi. There is a good, stable (in the medium/long term) platform that=20 costs next to nothing for people to play with Plan9. The core system is very elegant and flexible. Yet, I have the impression that some potential users may be put=20 off by the lack of polish in some other places (installer, ports etc.). These potential users are also potential contributors. More mass could mean: - having a useable (like useable in 2014) Web browser - having a useable (or having one at all) video/media player - having an SSH2 server (there is one in 9atom, but I didn't see=20 it in the stock Plan9). Are you sure it doesn't have the Heartbleed? - having a useable driver for touch pads or 2-button-plus-wheel=20 mice. I couldn't find a 3-button mouse these days, and clicking on the=20 wheel is awful. - up-to-date versions of modern programming languages. I miss=20 Ruby a lot. Wouldn't that be nice? 8D On 19.07.2014 17:11, Jacob Todd wrote: > Are you intentionally trying to make plan=C2=A0 bureaucratic?