From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13426df10907181059u192b75a6tefb37e56e3772f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A61E5CE.7080809@tecmav.com> <509071940907180925n74b32681oa54f0e46e1354ac6@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920907180959p1a7630eaj4d089c750b803e5f@mail.gmail.com> <13426df10907181059u192b75a6tefb37e56e3772f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:16:27 -0300 Message-ID: From: Iruata Souza To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project Topicbox-Message-UUID: 28aceeb8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 it is so difficult to 'fork' the project that it took me less than 10 minutes to turn the kernel sources into a hg repository. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Uriel wrote: > >> Plan 9 is *not* an open source project, it can hardly be called a >> project even: There is no release management, there is no development >> process, there is no way to know what anyone is working on, no way to >> have any idea of what changes and features to expect in the future or >> when, or when any given bug might be fixed, or even a bug database for >> that matter, > > > This is an interesting statement and should be revised. So let's correct it. > > Take that above text and add this, please: > "That is visible to Uriel, or that will ever be visible to Uriel, or > that Uriel has any possibility of influencing, given that Uriel has > burned every last bridge he might have ever had with the Plan 9 > developers to the ground.". > >> So you are on your own, you can take the code (while the site happens >> to be up, or from a mirror), do whatever you like with it, but that is >> all there is and all anyone can count on. > > So, let's revise this one too.. > > "I, Uriel, taking up Noah Evans offer, will be forking the code base > and releasing an OS called Plan-U. I will provide servers that resolve > all the problems seen with the bell labs server, and I will take on > the task, with my friends, of providing all the things I see lacking > in the current setup. It's much easier to contribute a solution than > complain, and I am not the type who gets perverse joy out of just > complaining and yelling at people on a mailing list. That game is for > losers. Rather, I wish to provide a constructive solution, and I know > that after a few months people will ignore the bell labs site and > flock to mine. It worked for openbsd, and it can work for Plan U. As > part of this effort, I hereby unsubscribe from this list, and am > starting a new one called ufans for my new OS release. Please join me > in this important work. " > > There now, wouldn't that be much easier? You already run a bunch of > servers; I think you could pull it off. And it might lower your blood > pressure :-) > > You declined Noah's serious offer to take over sources; here's another > chance! Go for ti! You should not assume it would not work. > > Ron > >