From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: "Russ Cox" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:31:21 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7bc8523c-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 the part that is painful is, as rog said, the differences and inconsistencies. every time you try to do something and wily doesn't quite behave the same way, it hurts. the most notable one is the different handling of Put when the file has been changed underneath you. i realize this was a design decision, but it's just weird when you're used to the acme behavior. and if you don't know how to use the wilybak directory (which i don't, really) then it's hard to get the file back. another difference is the behavior of arrow keys. in acme, if i type an up or down arrow, the screen scrolls up or down half a page. in wily, if i type one of the arrow keys, the cursor moves! if i wanted to move the cursor, i would have clicked somewhere with the mouse like god, rob, and tog intended. of course, plan 9 didn't have arrow keys when wily started, and so wily and acme have separately defined meaning for them. but it's unfortunate that wily caved to the keystrokes-for-positioning factions. it also bothers me that wily is so much less dense than acme as far as fitting things on the screen. there's far too much white space above and below the text in the tag lines. it's the little things. wily is still my choice of editor for unix. it just annoys me when i use it.