From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2901f468868d787fe01e0ca28d3a94c8@brasstown.quanstro.net> References: <2901f468868d787fe01e0ca28d3a94c8@brasstown.quanstro.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:58:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jason Catena To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] tex on plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 801a9736-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 19:40, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Oct =A05 20:18:06 EDT 2009, rminnich@gmail.com wrote: >> I'm just now looking at tex on plan 9 and finding that a 14-year old >> release is not that useful with the newer packages. >> >> Has anyone tried newer stuff at all? > > i just hate how the rush to use every last new feature > leads to things like gnu configure and autotools, and > ancient warhorses like tex no longer running. The software landscape is an ever-expanding forest of few blazed trails, thickly covering new continents of human endeavor, ever-diverging as each and every programmer customizes it to scratch each itch and make it all more amenable for people less compatible with a minimalist, elegant toolset mindset. No gatekeepers, wardens, librarians, or gardeners can suppress the wild profusion=97folly to try=97but here and there a few likeminded souls hoe rows and cut irrigation channels to cultivate the wild... and bicker about whether an empty row should lie fallow quietly or pool water in error, and whether to cut another row to satisfy each end. That's what makes the field cultivated, but all the same without commerce with the wild, without incorporation of new ideas, it becomes a stagnant and hostile exercise in standards-keeping. > - erik Jason Catena