[9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Steve Simon]

I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine,
Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I
have a working machine.

The problems where:
	realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat
	An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier
	SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely
	A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores.

So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW
drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor
drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money.

anyone any suggestions?

-Steve

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[David Leimbach]

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Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
model etc?  This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
free time to do anything with it.  (I already downloaded it)

Dave

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

> I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine,
> Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I
> have a working machine.
>
> The problems where:
>        realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat
>        An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier
>        SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely
>        A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores.
>
> So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW
> drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor
> drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money.
>
> anyone any suggestions?
>
> -Steve
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[erik quanstrom]

> Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
> model etc?  This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
> I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
> free time to do anything with it.  (I already downloaded it)

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H

vesa graphics are quite snappy, though it's a shame to give up the second
processor.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Roman V Shaposhnik]

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:33 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard
> > model etc?  This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home.
> > I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of
> > free time to do anything with it.  (I already downloaded it)
>
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H
>
> vesa graphics are quite snappy, though it's a shame to give up the second
> processor.

This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
there?

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[erik quanstrom]

> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
> there?

unless you think via is fast enough, you'll have to wait for
pine trail.  ich7r just requires too much power to go fanless.

it's quieter than the buttons on my mouse, though.  and
absolutely silent in comparison to my genunine model-m
keyboard.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Richard Miller]

>> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
>> there?
>
> unless you think via is fast enough, you'll have to wait for
> pine trail.  ich7r just requires too much power to go fanless.

It does seem bizarre that the atom-330 is rated at 8 watts and
is passively cooled, but the chipset is over 20 watts and needs
a fan.

On my jetway board, I replaced the noisy chipset fan with a
scythe mini-kaze which is much quieter.  I'm going to see if
I can go one step further with a Zalman passive heatsink.

Another thought: since I'm not using the onboard graphics
(I have a pci vga card so I can use both CPUs), can I shut
down the graphics part of the ich7 to draw less power?
Or is only the bios able to do that?

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Richard Miller]

> unless you think via is fast enough,

The dual-processor epia board was pretty snappy but it's no longer
available.

Many of the via processors have sha-1 in microcode, which could
be useful for a venti server if someone got around to putting the
support into libsec.

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[erik quanstrom]

> The dual-processor epia board was pretty snappy but it's no longer
> available.
>
> Many of the via processors have sha-1 in microcode, which could
> be useful for a venti server if someone got around to putting the
> support into libsec.

only if sha1 speed is a bottleneck.  is it?

- erik

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Nick LaForge]

> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
> there?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.

Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick
-- for mini-itx:

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm

Nick

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
>> there?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>
> Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick
> -- for mini-itx:
>
> http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm

All good stuff, but is it available for less than $1K though?

Thanks,
Roman.

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan]

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Hi Roman,

The price seems to be $118:

http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard

Thanks
dharani

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com> wrote:

>  On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>
>> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out
>>> there?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>>
>>
>> Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick
>> -- for mini-itx:
>>
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm
>>
>
> All good stuff, but is it available for less than $1K though?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Fernan Bolando]

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Steve Simon<steve@quintile.net> wrote:
> I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine,
> Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I
> have a working machine.
>
> The problems where:
>        realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat
>        An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier
>        SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely
>        A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores.
>
> So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW
> drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor
> drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money.
>
> anyone any suggestions?
>

Hi Steve

Its almost the weekend here and I finally had time to try Eriks iso on
my atom motherboard.
What configuration did you use?

I currently have the follwing
memory 2Gig
sata harddisk 320Gig
ide dvdrw liteon

I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil
I got a few

matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes.

I tried again and check the defaults that the installer was setting
and decided to diable DMA.
It didn't crash after that, however after letting it sit for 11 Hours
it is still in fmtfossil stage.
I can still the disk activity light so I guess it's still doing fmtfossil.

During the install it gave me the follwing disk prep.
30Gig fossil
24Gig isect
240Gig arenas

I will try send out some more details later.

thanks.
fernan





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Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[erik quanstrom]

> I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil
> I got a few
>
> matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes.

this is due to the awk problem reported this week.  i'll roll up
another cd this evening.

with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the
part where awk dies.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu Aug  6 19:36:22 EDT 2009, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:
> > I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil
> > I got a few
> >
> > matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes.
>
> this is due to the awk problem reported this week.  i'll roll up
> another cd this evening.
>
> with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the
> part where awk dies.

if you can get your machine on the network, you can
use /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk
	bind /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk /bin/awk

i still have to figure out why i can't build a cd after binding
awk into a 9660srv fs.  well the cd gets built, it's just 20mb
too small.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last

[Fernan Bolando]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:49 AM, erik quanstrom<quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
> On Thu Aug  6 19:36:22 EDT 2009, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:
>> > I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil
>> > I got a few
>> >
>> > matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes.
>>
>> this is due to the awk problem reported this week.  i'll roll up
>> another cd this evening.
>>
>> with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the
>> part where awk dies.
>
> if you can get your machine on the network, you can
> use /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk
>        bind /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk /bin/awk
>
> i still have to figure out why i can't build a cd after binding
> awk into a 9660srv fs.  well the cd gets built, it's just 20mb
> too small.

I did this
1 . boot the cd.
2. selected all install and all the defaults
3. after bootup...I delete all the install window
4. open new window
5. ip/ipconfig
6. ndb/cs
7. ndb/dns -r
8. srv -n sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources
9. mount -n /srv/sources /n/sources
10. bind /n/sources/quanstro/awk /bin/awk
11. typed inst/mainloop
12. selected fmtfossil.
it still crashes with a Faulted awk
Did I miss a step??

thanks for the help
fernan

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