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From: "John Waters" <jcwjr215@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:43:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5ac01e10808242243n1eeb25e7x267ac1b153601ac1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E224F7EE2A55F0ADE7746FD2@computer>

Not here in Najd, Saudi Arabia, where I live and work, it isn't.

2008/8/24 Eris Discordia <eris.discordia@gmail.com>:
> One more bit on Arabic:
>
> In a predicative sentence the subject is necessarily "Marfu'" (= "مرفوع")
> which means it either has a "damma" (= "ضمه") or a "dammatan" (= "ضمهٌ") on
> the ending letter. Whether the "damma" or the "dammaton" is used depends on
> whether the subject is "Ma'rafa" (= "معرفه", "known") or "Nakara" (= "نکره",
> "unknown"). When "Salam" has the definite article "Al" it is considered
> "Ma'rafa" and therefore receives the "damma" but when it is used without
> that article it is "Nakara" and receives the "dammaton." So, both forms
> "Al-Salam-u" and "Salam-on" are correct. However, the greeting in actual use
> is "Salam-on alaikom."
>
> --On Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:27 AM +0300 John Waters <jcwjr215@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Small correction, it is actually " ال سلام " , or "As-Salaam" (the L
>> in AL elides with "shams" letters). It would also be inappropriate for
>> you to receive such a greeting, which is a du'a reserved for muslims
>> only. Since you are using the name "Eris, is the name of a "deity", it
>> is safe to assume you are not a muslim. :) It is also "As-salaamu",
>> there is a "damma" or "u" vowel atop then meem in "salaam".
>>
>> "marhaban" is a more appropriate greeting in this case.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Eris Discordia
>> <eris.discordia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do me a favor. Fire up your beloved upas, use mail, and relay one email
>>> through upas/smtpd to smtp.gmail.com:587 with the words "שָׁלוֹם
>>> עֲלֵיכֶם" (Hebrew, Shalom aleichem) or "سلام علیکم"
>>> (Arabic, Salam-on alaikom) to my address. Let's see if "the mail goes
>>> through."
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-25  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-19 23:51 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:30 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  1:31 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  1:43   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:00     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  7:03       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  7:36         ` bb
2008-08-21  0:03     ` Dan Cross
2008-08-24  7:27 ` John Waters
2008-08-24 18:14   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-25  5:43     ` John Waters [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-24 17:13 Eris Discordia
2008-08-25  3:57 ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-08-24 16:52 Eris Discordia
2008-08-24  8:20 erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 17:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 20:39 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 22:11   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-22  2:58     ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-22  6:13     ` Andrew Simmons
2008-08-22  9:41       ` hiro
2008-08-21 17:20 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 16:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:11 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 18:29   ` hiro
2008-08-20 23:49 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 21:46 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 22:41 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 23:15 ` Geoffrey Avila
2008-08-21  7:42 ` Uriel
2008-08-21 10:58   ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 13:25     ` john
2008-08-21 13:31     ` David Leimbach
2008-08-21 16:59   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:14     ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 10:36 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 13:01 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 13:22 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 12:56 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 18:08 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 18:58   ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 19:47     ` sqweek
2008-08-20 12:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:44 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:34 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 11:56 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-08-20 12:25   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:03 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:33 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:29 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  8:04 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  1:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  2:13 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  8:08   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  5:02 ` sqweek
2008-08-20  9:15   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:44     ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20  9:53     ` sqweek
2008-08-20 10:12     ` matt
2008-08-20 12:27       ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 16:23     ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  8:10 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20  0:30 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:34 ` geoff
2008-08-20  3:43   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  3:48     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:42   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:10 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:29 ` a
2008-08-20  8:01 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 22:00 Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-19 23:14   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:12   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20  3:17     ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-20  8:31     ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:14 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-08-19 22:26   ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:27   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:36     ` Jonathan Cast
2008-08-20  0:42       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  2:08     ` a
2008-08-20  8:06       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  3:26     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20  3:31       ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:41       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:31   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:46     ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-20  0:31       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:03     ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20  0:34       ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  0:58         ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-19 22:34 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20  3:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-19 15:52 Wendell xe
2008-08-19 16:01 ` ron minnich
2008-08-19 16:11 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-19 21:23   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-08-19 16:31 ` Robert Raschke
2008-08-19 21:00   ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 17:50 ` Ramon de Vera
2008-08-19 17:58 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-22 12:37   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 18:26     ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 20:17       ` yy
2008-10-24 17:51     ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 18:17       ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-05 16:19       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-08-19 20:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 21:24   ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20  0:28     ` David Leimbach
2008-08-20  3:54 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20  3:56   ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20  8:48   ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20  9:21     ` matt

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