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From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp
Date: Sun,  7 Dec 2014 06:23:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6c5de04e18978ebe0fe44d7913a8264@proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2c0f0c6af3e1b2e178d0a587611b36b@lilly.quanstro.net>

> +1.  this is really an important point.  think of all the mega person
> years you could save by doing the simple, systemic things to make
> the job of maintaining system easier.

You are missing an even more important issue here: imagine how much
beneficial impact such a radical break with tradition would have had
on the mindset of the community!  But we're dealing with conservatism
here and not with measurable improvements.

Also, and I am on Charles' side on this, _who_ should have done this?
Sun Microsystems, Microsoft?

And how do we know that it has not been done, but was rejected?  The
technology is not driven by need but, surprise, surprise, by greed.

And, most importantly, it is a complex blend of science and
engineering with no moral compass and plenty of money.  Is it
surprising that it fails to address problems without profitable
solutions?

My beef with Charles, by the way - and I must have been guilty of the
same sin as he - is not that he is mistaken, but that he formulated
his criticism in an ambiguous manner, where it is necessary that it
should be very clear which of two alternatives he is criticising.  I
simply wish there was less of that, specially on a mailing list where
English is not everyone's mother tongue.  Sometimes I can't resist the
temptation to bring this to everyone's attention.

No offence was intended and if some was taken, I apologize.

Lucio.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-07  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-05  3:38 sl
2014-12-05  9:50 ` David L. Craig
2014-12-06  0:08   ` Charles Forsyth
2014-12-06  5:22     ` lucio
2014-12-06 18:29       ` Charles Forsyth
2014-12-06 18:41         ` erik quanstrom
2014-12-06 20:56           ` Wes Kussmaul
2014-12-07  4:23           ` lucio [this message]
2014-12-07  7:31             ` erik quanstrom
2014-12-07  2:37         ` Bruce Ellis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-12-03 23:49 Stéphane Aulery
2014-12-05  2:33 ` [9fans] " Charles Forsyth
2014-12-05  3:08   ` Bruce Ellis
2014-12-05  3:20     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-12-05  4:14     ` Kurt H Maier
2014-12-06  1:58       ` Bruce Ellis

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