From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery In-Reply-To: <200311171343.hAHDh3Eb001606@skeeve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-phsugdhqoyitkplngqolrlcwfr" Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:35:31 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8d8157d8-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-phsugdhqoyitkplngqolrlcwfr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well said. --upas-phsugdhqoyitkplngqolrlcwfr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Nov 17 08:43:37 EST 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Nov 17 08:43:34 EST 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC13B19B73; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1ACCA19B55; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:43:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C6A6319A6D; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from skeeve.com (80.179.113.222.forward.012.net.il [80.179.113.222]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60D5419B01 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from skeeve.com (skeeve [127.0.0.1]) by skeeve.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hAHDh38K001608 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:43:03 +0200 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by skeeve.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id hAHDh3Eb001606; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:43:03 +0200 From: Aharon Robbins Message-Id: <200311171343.hAHDh3Eb001606@skeeve.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery X-Newsgroups: comp.os.plan9 In-Reply-To: <20031117145310.D16487@cackle.proxima.alt.za> References: <200311160804.hAG84F7Y002284@skeeve.com> Organization: Pioneer Consulting, Ltd. Cc: Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:43:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <20031117145310.D16487@cackle.proxima.alt.za> you write: >On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:42:14PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: >> > >> They may have done what NetBSD did, which is to use a directory >> hierarchy for the distribution packages which is unique to them >> (/usr/pkg). You probably know this. >> >> [ ... ] > >Oops, I meant that to go to Aharon only, but forgot that Mutt has its >own mind. The list also sets the reply-to. I didn't know about *BSD's /usr/pkg. But again, they made their own work. I work under Linux, and find it stable, reliable, fast and useful. Much better than any proprietary Unix. My Linux systems don't crash, and they don't lose files. Is fossil/venti there yet? It's hard to judge based on the list traffic. Granted, they're both quite young, but I need my systems to make my living. Maybe my using Linux makes me personna non grata here, if so too bad. I'm also a GNU volunteer that doesn't touch Emacs, so there, nyah, nyah, nyah. If Geoff can tweak config.sub so that it recognizes plan 9, then please do so and mail it in; it'll get added. The Autoconf people are aware of autoconf's flaws; the shared database thing is, I believe, on their list. There is already configure.cache so that reconfiguring the same package is sped up. Again, if it matters to you, talk to them, don't just sit off in the 9fans corner sulking. Really people, I think Plan 9 is great, I wish I had the time to invest in working with it, and I'd love to see it take over the world. But it's not true that the only source of decent software is 1127, and it's also not true that there's nothing you can do about GNUware that you don't like. (Yes, boyd, er, Susan, heresy. Oh well.) Arnold --upas-phsugdhqoyitkplngqolrlcwfr--