From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:17:58 -0800 From: "Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: <5d375e920901021916s4a4e0279l574ba7ce352952b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97D0669D-148B-499B-8620-8961E16880FA@corpus-callosum.com> <5d375e920901021916s4a4e0279l574ba7ce352952b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 762a9150-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 hi uriel, dont know why but actually inferno graphics on 9vx is slow as well. but then, i can also run inferno natively on mac os x, right? only thing i will be missing is a single screen in which i will have both inferno and plan9. thanks dharani On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Uriel wrote: > If you use 9vx as your terminal, you can run inferno/acme locally, > which might improve things a bit, although it still leaves a lot to be > desired. > > The strange thing with drawterm+inferno is that even video playback > over drawterm seems to work better than the painful redrawing of wm > apps. > > Perhaps having inferno apps use the Plan 9 (or drawterm) draw device > directly would help, but I seem to remember Charles didn't think it > would make a big difference, maybe somebody should test it and see if > we can track down where the slowdown comes from... > > uriel > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan > wrote: >> hi jeff, >> >> after a couple of hiccups, i made my plan9 installation to become a >> cpu/auth server as well. i am also able to use graphics screen with >> 1280x768 resolution. the graphics screen is good enough for me so far. >> >> on the drawterm stuff, yes, i keep using it and it is pretty good. the >> only problem with drawterm is inferno graphics screen performance. it >> is really bad. you have to use it to believe it. since i use >> inferno/inferno-acme most of the time, i think i cant use drawterm. >> otherwise, drawterm is really cool. >> >> that apart, i think your suggestion is valid and good, just use VM as >> auth/cpu server and do the rest with drawterm. >> >> thanks >> dharani >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Jeff Sickel wrote: >>> Or better yet, use drawterm to a vmware based Plan 9 stand alone CPU server. >>> Copy/paste works, rio is responsive, and the VMWare host never needs to >>> enter graphics mode. Don't configure the vm for multiple cpus though, that >>> doesn't work so well (but virtualizing multiple cpus doesn't really work >>> well in Parallels or VirtualBox either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers). >>> Drawterm will go full screen if you like. >>> >>> Whatever virtualized graphics chipset VMWare is providing really does not >>> work well w/ Plan 9. I've also found it doesn't work so well with any other >>> OS I've tried (haven't tried Windows), so you're milage may vary. >>> >>> Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new >>> driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'd say stop >>> trying to make Plan 9 do something it won't be able to do well on VMWare. >>> In fact, take a quick look at VMWare's knowledge base support site as there >>> are plenty of references to poor graphics performance even for their >>> targeted guest OS. >>> >>> -jas >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware fusion >>>> 2.0? >>>> >>>> i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth >>>> server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new >>>> windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the >>>> window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly >>>> here? is it rio? >>>> >>>> any clues? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> dharani >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >