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From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] new compilers
Date: Sun,  2 Apr 2006 21:47:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db4e3f6d839423ebcf5c96d97a83cea4@proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200604021817.k32IHO4U011991@skeeve.com>

> Ah, but he did. There were TONS of people begging Andy to make Minix
> do virtual memory on 386 hardware and also to loosen up somewhat on the
> licensing. He would do neither.

I wasn't paying attention to the public debate at the time and even
managed not to notice the micro-kernel/monolythic-kernel controversy,
but I have a pretty clear recollection that the licencing for Minix
was dictated by McGraw-Hill, the publishers of the Minix book, rather
than Tanenbaum himself.

As for 386-hardware, I already mentioned that Bruce Evans had a
legitimate minix-386 going, whether virtual memory was involved or
not, I have no recollection.  The licencing, I recall, was that you
had to have paid for the source distribution and you were then
entitled to all subsequent upgrades and so on.  I did not get the
impression that it was a show stopper at the time, I paid considerably
more for Plan 9 with a much more restrictive licence.

I had some very brief interactions with Andy (and Bruce) at the time,
and both struck me as extremely pleasant, down to earth people.
Torvalds never gave me the same warm feeling as they.

++L



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-02 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  0:40 erik quanstrom
2006-03-28 17:52 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-28 18:15   ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-28 18:29     ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-28 18:52       ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 19:13         ` [9fans] [OT] hypothetical questions Russ Cox
2006-03-28 19:28           ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-28 20:26             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 21:18               ` Lou Kamenov
2006-03-29  6:14                 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-28 19:41           ` David Leimbach
2006-03-28 19:15         ` [9fans] new compilers Victor Nazarov
2006-03-28 19:22           ` [9fans] [OT] linus, the early years Charles Forsyth
2006-03-28 20:07             ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 16:33           ` [9fans] new compilers Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 16:49             ` [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not? Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 18:04               ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 18:45                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-03-29 19:41                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-03-29 23:27                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30  0:38                   ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:29                     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:40                       ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:55                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:13                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-30  4:26                         ` jmk
2006-03-30 16:08                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 16:02                       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 18:14                     ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30 12:46                   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 13:43                     ` Richard Miller
2006-03-30 13:49                       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-29 18:20               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-29 18:58                 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 23:16               ` lucio
2006-03-30  2:00                 ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-30  5:06                   ` lucio
2006-03-29 21:17             ` [9fans] new compilers Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-03-29 21:44               ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-04-02 18:17       ` Aharon Robbins
2006-04-02 18:33         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-02 19:47         ` lucio [this message]
2006-04-02 20:12           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-04-02 20:16             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  4:35               ` lucio
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` George Michaelson
2006-04-03  6:45                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  8:31                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  9:36                   ` uriel
2006-04-03 12:50                     ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-04-03  9:39                   ` lucio
2006-04-03 13:46                 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-03 14:30                 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-03 16:02                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-03 20:41                     ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-03 21:02                       ` uriel
2006-04-03 21:32                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 23:42                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  0:29                           ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-04  5:02                             ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  3:15                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  3:28                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  6:31                           ` David Leimbach
2006-04-04  4:21                         ` lucio
2006-04-05  1:00                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-05  4:35                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04 12:31                       ` rog
2006-04-03  3:17           ` plan9
2006-04-03  4:17             ` lucio
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-03 22:54 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 14:42 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 13:27 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 14:47 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 12:31 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2006-03-31 12:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 13:23 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 14:42   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31  9:17 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2006-03-31  9:40 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  9:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  9:48   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:56     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31 10:01       ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 10:03       ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 10:08         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31 14:58       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-31 15:01         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 22:02 ` Taj Khattra
2006-04-03 16:21 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 17:17   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-04-03 19:01     ` Artem Letko
2006-04-03 19:22       ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-30 20:14 Steve Simon
2006-03-29  1:18 erik quanstrom
2006-03-28  0:30 erik quanstrom
2006-03-25 13:56 Russ Cox
2006-03-25 19:48 ` David Leimbach
2006-03-25 19:53   ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-25 19:59     ` David Leimbach
2006-03-25 20:02   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-25 21:25     ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-25 21:28     ` quanstro
2006-03-25 21:33       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-25 22:42         ` quanstro
2006-03-25 22:46         ` quanstro
2006-03-26  1:46           ` jmk
2006-03-26  2:52             ` quanstro
2006-03-26  8:14               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-26  8:41                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-26 17:06                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-26 17:00             ` David Leimbach
2006-03-27 17:31             ` rog
2006-03-27 19:01               ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-27 19:15                 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-27 19:21                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-30 17:41                   ` rog
2006-03-30 17:44                     ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 18:24                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 17:51                     ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-03-30 17:54                       ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-30 18:30                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 18:43                           ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-30 18:48                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 18:51                               ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-30 18:51                             ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 21:00                           ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-30 23:16                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 23:23                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  6:16                               ` uriel
2006-03-31  7:56                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31  9:04                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 23:32                         ` Adrian Tritschler
2006-03-30 17:57                       ` rog
2006-03-30 18:27                         ` rog
2006-03-30 20:46                           ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-31  1:15                             ` Steve Simon
2006-03-31  1:24                               ` Russ Cox
2006-03-31  2:00                               ` Joel Salomon
2006-03-31  2:26                               ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-31  8:46                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  8:49                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 21:40                                 ` Taj Khattra
2006-03-31  4:24                             ` Jack Johnson
2006-03-31  4:33                               ` veritosproject
2006-03-30 17:58                       ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 18:03                       ` jmk
2006-03-30 18:13                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 18:57                       ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-30 19:15                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 19:22                           ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 19:29                             ` Rob Pike
2006-03-30 19:58                               ` David Leimbach

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