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From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] telnet vs. godaddy whois
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:57:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbf012d48d5750c63fee3963ec665e21@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480D09CA.80903@authentrus.com>

> And it will continue to regress until one knowledgeable and independent
> human being serves as final arbiter of standards.

i think some of it eventually will be formalised, much as we do with programming
languages (even Javascript, which i mentioned, at least has a plausible grammar),
but it seems we still haven't got a suitable tool to do it (or at least, not one that enough
people use without fuss).   even then a formalised version of something can still have
(more formal) bugs, that fail to express an intention correctly.

anyway, just to be helpful: Bakul is right that as in Erik's case, for networked applications particularly,
you end up having to be pragmatic when talking to other implementations.  for example,
the (old) Mac POP3 client demanded a space at a certain point, even when there was
no argument (required by the POP3 RFC).  most other server implementations included something
chatty there, and the POP3 client implementation had followed the servers, not the RFC.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-15 17:16 erik quanstrom
2008-04-16 13:31 ` Russ Cox
2008-04-16 13:46   ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-16 16:52     ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-04-16 18:36     ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-16 19:04       ` ron minnich
2008-04-16 19:48         ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-16 20:25           ` Tim Wiess
2008-04-16 20:49           ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-16 21:43             ` Taj Khattra
2008-04-16 22:00               ` John Barham
2008-04-16 22:20               ` C H Forsyth
2008-04-16 23:26             ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-17  0:04               ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17  8:18                 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 18:41                   ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-17 19:29                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-17 20:59                       ` Tim Wiess
2008-04-17 21:19                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 21:23                           ` Tim Wiess
2008-04-17 21:56                             ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 22:06                               ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 22:43                               ` Tim Wiess
2008-04-17 23:02                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 23:09                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 14:56                                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-21 15:24                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 19:37                                         ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-21 20:20                                           ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 19:28                                       ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-21 20:19                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 20:19                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 21:06                                           ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-21 21:24                                             ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 21:40                                               ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-04-21 21:45                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-21 22:04                                                   ` Wes Kussmaul
2008-04-21 21:57                                                 ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2008-04-21 22:07                                               ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-21 23:12                                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-21 21:49                                         ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-21 22:42                                           ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-17 21:42                       ` Bakul Shah
2008-04-17 21:49                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 21:49                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-17 22:15                             ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 22:19                               ` erik quanstrom
2008-04-17 22:48                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 22:55                                   ` Tim Wiess
2008-04-17 23:08                                     ` Charles Forsyth
2008-04-17 22:14                           ` Bakul Shah

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