//As I mentioned earlier, wouldn't a frame with [sorted] listing of //window tags be a cleaner solution for navigation? i don't think so, no. how would it work? say i have some window containing this list. how's it sorted? lists are one-dimensional; my acme window arangement is not. while there's a trivial way to do the transformation (go down col 1, then col 2...), that becomes quite awkward, mentally. but the biggest problem is that i want to look at a window and know which file i'm editing. i have a lot of acme windows most of the time, and counting down a list - even given some kind of markers denoting col boundaries - seems like it would take forever. and how would commands work? how do you tell Put which window to Put if they're all in a list? actually, this all sounds so bad to me i've concluded i don't really understand what you're suggesting. â˜â˜care to sort me out? ï