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From: Geoff Collyer <geoff@collyer.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] port/devcons.c is not port-able
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:30:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0ee16c8ebd3d7f0b4ddcd5ef01edf07@collyer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407132009570.3743-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

It's just not the amount of mechanism at issue, but the odds of a
panic message or other serious complaint being seen, for instance.  If
you've got console prints going only to a pipe, and the process
reading the pipe blocks, for a while prints will go into pipe
buffering (and not be seen) and then finally kernel processes doing
prints will start to block when the pipe buffering fills.

Actually, the panic case is worse: the message would go into pipe
buffering, and no matter what the reading process is doing, the system
will shut down and the reading process is unlikely to run (or run for
long enough to matter), and again the message wouldn't be seen.  So
the user experience of a panic in that case would be either a
mysterious hang of the entire system or a sudden blanking of the
screen and a reboot, possibly both (the hang, a delay and a reboot).

The current devcons is messy but pragmatic.  Plugging your serial
consoles into a console server gives you remote access to the consoles
and logging.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-14  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-13 13:57 ron minnich
2004-07-14  1:24 ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-14  2:10   ` ron minnich
2004-07-14  2:30     ` Geoff Collyer [this message]
2004-07-14  2:47       ` ron minnich
2004-07-14  2:34     ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-07-14  2:47       ` ron minnich
2004-07-14  2:51         ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-14  4:40           ` Dan Cross
2004-07-14 13:33           ` OT: " Dave Lukes
2004-07-14 14:08             ` ron minnich
2004-07-14 15:31               ` Jack Johnson
2004-07-14  5:00         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-07-14 10:34         ` matt
2004-07-14 14:04           ` ron minnich
2004-07-14 14:04           ` Dave Lukes
2004-07-14 15:03             ` ron minnich
2004-07-14 16:13               ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-14 14:52           ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-14  2:49       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-14  4:36       ` Dan Cross
2004-07-14  2:38     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-07-14  2:49       ` ron minnich
2004-07-14  5:15         ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-14  6:36           ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-14 13:47           ` ron minnich
2004-07-14 18:29             ` Dan Cross
2004-07-14 18:53               ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-14 19:42               ` ron minnich
2004-07-14 20:14                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-14 20:19                 ` Frank Palazzolo
2004-07-14 20:18                   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-07-14 21:06                     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-07-14 21:31                   ` boyd, rounin
2004-07-14  4:31 ` Dan Cross
     [not found] <00aba352392cbadebd943e05d1e17412@plan9.ucalgary.ca>
2004-07-15  3:14 ` Geoff Collyer

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