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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] _xinc vs ainc
Date: Sat,  7 May 2011 18:47:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1a9cc06540e2f7da4e2c5cf2389a00f@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30A0D4B5-1AAB-4D95-9B9F-FD09CB796E6D@bitblocks.com>

> Just guessing. May be the new code allows more concurrency? If the
> value is not in the processor cache, will the old code block other
> processors for much longer? The new code forces caching with the first
> read so may be high likelyhood cmpxchg will finish faster. I haven't
> studied x86 cache behavior so this guess could be completely wrong.
> Suggest asking on comp.arch where people like Andy Glew can give you a
> definitive answer.

according to intel, this is a myth.  search for "myth" in this page.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/implementing-scalable-atomic-locks-for-multi-core-intel-em64t-and-ia32-architectures/

and this stands to reason, since both techniques revolve around a
LOCK'd instruction, thus invoking the x86 architectural MESI(f)
protocol.

the difference, and my main point is that the loop in ainc means
that it is not a wait-free algorithm.  this is not only sub optimal,
but also could lead to incorrect behavior.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-07 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-07 13:05 erik quanstrom
2011-05-07 19:33 ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-07 22:47   ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2011-05-07 23:10     ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-08  0:25       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-08  1:24         ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-08  2:44           ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2011-05-08  6:00 ` ron minnich
2011-05-08 13:14   ` erik quanstrom

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