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From: Wes Kussmaul <wes@ReliableID.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] licence question
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:15:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e33b951b-df11-7c1a-a45f-5d9001b87870@ReliableID.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16434613850.BC38c.59069@composer.9fans.topicbox.com>


On 1/29/22 08:03, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
> On Friday, 28 January 2022, at 10:59 PM, hiro wrote:
>> why should it be closed source? you're gonna seriously put the effort 
>> to remove all the traces of source files?
> <clip>
> I am consequently avoiding infecting licenses in my projects and my 
> distributions for decades now and those parts of plan9 (9front) which 
> are not conforming are not a big deal to throw away. diff, patch are 
> available in conforming licensed versions.

Ibrahim, this is a big unacknowledged problem in open source.

A solution is proposed at gos.osmio.ch:

***

"Until now, the world of software licensing has been divided into two 
models: proprietary and open source. That has served us well… or has 
served us anyway... for decades. But the world needs something better*–* 
a third way if you will. Allow us to introduce that third model to you.

The *proprietary ecosystems* of Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, Oracle and 
others are governed. In each case, an identifiable entity, a company, 
*takes responsibility for keeping the system useful and secure. That’s 
good.*

Open source software also provides its own kind of goodness. Anyone can 
put open source software to use, avoiding market manipulation, 
proprietary barriers, license fees, file format gotchas, hidden privacy 
erosion techniques, and the rest of the not so good stuff that infests 
proprietary technology.

Proprietary software might have been OK when your phone was wired into 
the wall and your “micro” computer was an unconnected glorified 
typewriter. But now that we all live a large portion of our lives in the 
digital world, that private, closed governance has us living down on the 
plantations of the owners of those proprietary platforms.

*So how do we get the benefits of both governed systems and open source 
systems at the same time?*

The answer is:

*Governed Open Source*

**

Governed Open Source is genuinely a third new category alongside 
proprietary and open source."

***

GOS includes very old constructs from the physical world such as 
professional licensing of code auditors and many others. I suggest 
checking it out.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-29 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27 22:43 ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-27 22:48 ` hiro
2022-01-27 23:33   ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-28  0:05     ` hiro
2022-01-28  0:42       ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-28  0:46         ` ori
2022-01-28  1:14           ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-28  3:23             ` Kurt H Maier via 9fans
2022-01-28 12:01               ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-28 21:59                 ` hiro
2022-01-29 13:03                   ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 13:24                     ` hiro
2022-01-29 14:08                       ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 14:59                         ` sirjofri
2022-01-29 18:11                         ` Grant Defayette
2022-01-29 19:00                           ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 20:43                         ` hiro
2022-01-29 21:32                           ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 21:42                             ` hiro
2022-01-29 22:23                               ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 23:14                                 ` sirjofri
2022-01-29 23:27                                   ` hiro
2022-01-29 23:36                                   ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-30  0:08                                     ` hiro
2022-01-30  1:45                                       ` ron minnich
2022-01-30  2:18                                         ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-30 21:00                                           ` ron minnich
2022-02-01 15:08                                             ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-02-01 17:06                                               ` Dan Cross
2022-01-29 22:14                         ` Bakul Shah
2022-01-29 22:40                           ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-02-04 15:30                         ` Kent R. Spillner
2022-02-04 16:17                           ` Grant Defayette
2022-02-04 16:29                           ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-02-04 21:12                             ` sirjofri
2022-02-04 17:48                           ` Kurt H Maier via 9fans
2022-02-05  0:08                             ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2022-02-05 16:47                               ` hiro
2022-01-29 14:26                     ` David Leimbach via 9fans
2022-02-01 14:12                       ` Dan Cross
2022-02-01 22:47                         ` hiro
2022-02-02 13:22                           ` Wes Kussmaul
2022-02-02 16:25                             ` ori
2022-02-02 18:22                               ` ron minnich
2022-02-02 19:00                                 ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 16:15                     ` Wes Kussmaul [this message]
2022-01-29 16:56                     ` Bakul Shah
2022-01-29 17:17                       ` ori
2022-01-29 18:14                       ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 18:58                     ` cinap_lenrek
2022-01-29 19:23                       ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 20:48                         ` hiro
2022-01-29 21:18                           ` Steve Simon
2022-01-29 21:34                             ` hiro
2022-01-29 21:43                             ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-29 22:44                               ` hiro
2022-01-29 23:26                                 ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-30  7:55                           ` tlaronde
2022-01-30 13:44                             ` ibrahim via 9fans
2022-01-30 13:56                               ` tlaronde
2022-01-28  3:14 ` Lucio De Re

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