* [9fans] known working wifi cards
@ 2012-03-21 3:12 Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 3:40 ` Tristan
2012-03-21 15:42 ` [9fans] known working wifi cards Richard Miller
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From: Stanley Lieber @ 2012-03-21 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if
you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand
experience only.
-sl
PCI:
none known
PCI Express:
none known
MiniPCI:
Actiontec 800MIP (branded Lucent WaveLAN)
MiniPCI Express:
none known
PCMCIA:
Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 3:12 [9fans] known working wifi cards Stanley Lieber
@ 2012-03-21 3:40 ` Tristan
2012-03-21 5:43 ` [9fans] wifi interface Tristan
2012-03-21 15:42 ` [9fans] known working wifi cards Richard Miller
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From: Tristan @ 2012-03-21 3:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if
> you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand
> experience only.
USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for)
enjoy,
tristan
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* [9fans] wifi interface
2012-03-21 3:40 ` Tristan
@ 2012-03-21 5:43 ` Tristan
2012-03-21 6:15 ` erik quanstrom
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From: Tristan @ 2012-03-21 5:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for)
oh, and on that note:
said wireless driver is much nicer now (though far from perfect or
complete) and still in contrib/tristan/libertas.tgz.
the wavelan driver uses the ctl file in the connection (`{cat clone}/ctl)
to manage association and such (if i'm understanding correctly). i find
that fairly annoying to use and generally unintuitive.
i'm inclined to extend the ethernet interface an etherx/ctl file that
accepted commands along the lines of ssid, bssid, and channel to
configure the connection. did the wavelan driver not do this for a reason
beyond changing devether? any better ideas?
my guess is that the strongest argument against that is that wavelan does
it the other way and consistancy is important.
enjoy,
tristan
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* Re: [9fans] wifi interface
2012-03-21 5:43 ` [9fans] wifi interface Tristan
@ 2012-03-21 6:15 ` erik quanstrom
2012-03-21 7:01 ` Tristan
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-03-21 6:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> i'm inclined to extend the ethernet interface an etherx/ctl file that
> accepted commands along the lines of ssid, bssid, and channel to
> configure the connection. did the wavelan driver not do this for a reason
> beyond changing devether? any better ideas?
there's already a ctl file. it's in the connection directory. we use
this to set the hardware mtu. for example
echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone
i'm sure you can do this with your wireless commands as well.
you'll need to set ether->ctl to an appropriate function.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] wifi interface
2012-03-21 6:15 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2012-03-21 7:01 ` Tristan
2012-03-21 7:03 ` erik quanstrom
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From: Tristan @ 2012-03-21 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone
interesting, i didn't realise clone had been overloaded like that, i just
knew about the ctl file in the connection directory.
that's plenty convenient, if a little strange.
> i'm sure you can do this with your wireless commands as well.
> you'll need to set ether->ctl to an appropriate function.
indeed, i had already.
thanks,
tristan
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* Re: [9fans] wifi interface
2012-03-21 7:01 ` Tristan
@ 2012-03-21 7:03 ` erik quanstrom
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-03-21 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wed Mar 21 03:02:26 EDT 2012, 9p-st@imu.li wrote:
> > echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone
> interesting, i didn't realise clone had been overloaded like that, i just
> knew about the ctl file in the connection directory.
it's not overloaded. when you open the clone file, the fid gets changed
to be that of $nextconv/ctl. since the operations tend to be one shot,
the idom is to "operate directly on the clone file".
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 3:12 [9fans] known working wifi cards Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 3:40 ` Tristan
@ 2012-03-21 15:42 ` Richard Miller
2012-03-21 15:47 ` Stanley Lieber
1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Richard Miller @ 2012-03-21 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> PCMCIA:
>
> Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
aka Avaya World Card Silver
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 15:42 ` [9fans] known working wifi cards Richard Miller
@ 2012-03-21 15:47 ` Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 16:02 ` Richard Miller
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From: Stanley Lieber @ 2012-03-21 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> PCMCIA:
>>
>> Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
>
> aka Avaya World Card Silver
aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
etc.
-sl
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 15:47 ` Stanley Lieber
@ 2012-03-21 16:02 ` Richard Miller
2012-03-21 16:10 ` Stanley Lieber
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From: Richard Miller @ 2012-03-21 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
> aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
> etc.
"Firsthand experience only" ?
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 16:02 ` Richard Miller
@ 2012-03-21 16:10 ` Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 20:08 ` Jerome Ibanes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Stanley Lieber @ 2012-03-21 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
>> aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
>> etc.
>
> "Firsthand experience only" ?
Perhaps it's a faulty assumption that all PC24E-H-FC cards are created
equal. I've seen them branded many different ways.
-sl
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 16:10 ` Stanley Lieber
@ 2012-03-21 20:08 ` Jerome Ibanes
2012-03-22 13:59 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
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From: Jerome Ibanes @ 2012-03-21 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
I use a "Vonets USB WiFi Bridge vap11g" I found on ebay for less than
$10, I wrote a little driver to have it set its channel and ssid.
I didn't have any documentation, so I snooped the usb traffic bridged
to a windows instance running in virtualbox.
Jerome
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Stanley Lieber
<stanley.lieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>>> aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
>>> aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
>>> etc.
>>
>> "Firsthand experience only" ?
>
> Perhaps it's a faulty assumption that all PC24E-H-FC cards are created
> equal. I've seen them branded many different ways.
>
> -sl
>
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-21 20:08 ` Jerome Ibanes
@ 2012-03-22 13:59 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
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From: Ethan Grammatikidis @ 2012-03-22 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:08:04 -0700
Jerome Ibanes <jibanes@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use a "Vonets USB WiFi Bridge vap11g" I found on ebay for less than
> $10, I wrote a little driver to have it set its channel and ssid.
> I didn't have any documentation, so I snooped the usb traffic bridged
> to a windows instance running in virtualbox.
Nice! I've thought snooping could help with writing drivers since I
started using Linux, but Linux had drivers for all of my hardware back
then anyway and the ISA bus was just starting to go out of style. ;)
Anyway it's funny you should post this now. Just half an hour ago I was
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-22 13:59 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
@ 2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-03-22 17:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
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From: Gorka Guardiola @ 2012-03-22 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
> does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
>
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.
There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
G.
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
@ 2012-03-22 17:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2012-03-22 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Wireshark is available for windows, osx and linux.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote:
>> thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
>> does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
>>
>
> Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
> information you
> probably need.
>
> There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
>
> G.
>
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-03-22 17:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
@ 2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-03-23 21:26 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
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From: Balwinder S Dheeman @ 2012-03-23 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On 03/22/2012 09:14 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
>> thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
>> does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
>>
>
> Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
> information you
> probably need.
>
> There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
Plz check http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/
--
Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman
(http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/)
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-03-22 17:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
@ 2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-03-23 21:26 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
3 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Balwinder S Dheeman @ 2012-03-23 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On 03/22/2012 09:14 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
>> thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
>> does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
>>
>
> Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
> information you
> probably need.
>
> There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
see also http://usb-robot.sourceforge.net/
--
Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman
(http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/)
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* Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards
2012-03-22 15:44 ` Gorka Guardiola
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2012-03-23 9:51 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
@ 2012-03-23 21:26 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
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From: Ethan Grammatikidis @ 2012-03-23 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:44:07 +0100
Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote:
> > thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
> > does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
> >
>
> Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
> information you
> probably need.
>
Neat. I was thinking of the built-in wifi in laptops, myself.
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