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From: Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Go
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:49:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e763acc10911121049r90e941i754e25156b47c488@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb755944c9e58c38155041180dffa483@ladd.quanstro.net>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
>> > Speaking of VMs (and Limbo) -- I'm wondering if Go is eventually going
>> > to have it anyway. Any reason not to?
>>
>> It can be perceived as a competitor to C if it has a runtime, but not
>> if it has a VM. So I don't think it would grow one.
>
> why do you think the goal is to be
> perceived as a competitor to c?

Good question. In fact, I'd say any language that has a non-trivial
runtime library is not actually competing with C. C is a portable assembler
and that's why I, personally, like it so much -- its runtime is pure hardware
(both physical and virtual).

To some extent -- that's the reason I'm asking my VM question. I think any
non-trivial runtime is VM envy. Besides with JIT like capabilities you can
actually run faster in a VM setting.

> one thing that's not clear to me from
> the faq (perhaps it's clarified in robs talk?)
> and i haven't worked out for myself yet, is if
> one could write operating system code in
> go.  and if so, what would the language
> restrictions be.

If what you mean is "writing a kernel" then my take so far
is -- garbage collection and concurrency support might get
in the way. However, as always, I'd be very curious to find out
Russ' take on it.

Thanks,
Roman.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<9ab217670911120728q137ac2c1j4f11d9a1d8b2ded5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-12 16:37 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-12 16:59   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-11-12 18:49   ` Roman Shaposhnik [this message]
     [not found] <<9ab217670911120859u25b8f6f0m57cad5c126d75d65@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-12 17:13 ` erik quanstrom
2009-11-12 17:29   ` LiteStar numnums
2009-11-12 18:40   ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-11-12  4:31 Nick LaForge
2009-11-12  5:27 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-11-12 15:28   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-11-12 20:51   ` Nick LaForge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-11  6:00 Russ Cox
2009-11-11  6:33 ` Anant Narayanan
2009-11-11  6:47 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-11-11 11:27   ` Eris Discordia
     [not found]   ` <D67AC32CFE1076880E2CDDD5@192.168.1.2>
2009-11-11 16:25     ` John Waters
2009-11-11 17:23       ` roger peppe
2009-11-11  7:25 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-11-11 17:23   ` Russ Cox
2009-11-12  5:08     ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-11-12  5:25       ` Russ Cox
2009-11-12  5:46         ` Jeff Sickel
2009-11-12  6:39           ` Russ Cox
2009-11-12 16:37             ` Michaelian Ennis
2009-11-12 17:09 ` AngryDude

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