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[99.139.148.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s8sm893757otk.36.2020.07.23.14.59.01 for <9fans@9fans.net> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [9fans] Early version of Floppy Demo To: 9fans@9fans.net References: <15955234350.79DC0b1.943087@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <807c3d21-2cf5-473e-859c-728ac83d3d30@www.fastmail.com> From: Will Senn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:59:00 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1DD9E2441712FE7A43EA7BB0" Content-Language: en-US Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: bca5867e-cd2f-11ea-beb1-acba39ab266b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1DD9E2441712FE7A43EA7BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 7/23/20 4:33 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ethan Gardener > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Going by memory, assuming aux/vga ran, you should be able to > type 8-Alt-1-2 to type 8½ > > You should also be able to start acme or sam instead of 8½. > > These will probably work, except acme hadn't been invented yet and > sam may or may not give an error the first time. (Checked with > another demo disk.) You probably do want to start the window > system, there is no way to kill the foreground process without it. > > > Acme (Alef version) is in 2ed; the single-floppy version doesn't seem > to have the binary. Looking at the screenshot that Will sent me > directly, the dates on the binaries match up to 2ed release. > > I'm pretty sure the four-floppy set that came with the CDROM has the > acme binary. I don't have any floppy drives that I trust to look at my > copy. > *9fans * / 9fans / see discussions > + participants > + delivery options > Permalink > > Interestingly enough, I found an old 4 floppy set of vd's in the same folder with the demo image. It looks like they are Nov 1995 (I apparently winimaged them from floppies back then). When I boot disk 1, it complains about not having an mbr partition and bails. I'm guessing it's expecting some OS and hard disk to be present to install to. -- GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF --------------1DD9E2441712FE7A43EA7BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 7/23/20 4:33 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> Going by memory, assuming aux/vga ran, you should be able to type 8-Alt-1-2 to type 8½
> You should also be able to start acme or sam instead of 8½.

These will probably work, except acme hadn't been invented yet and sam may or may not give an error the first time. (Checked with another demo disk.) You probably do want to start the window system, there is no way to kill the foreground process without it.

Acme (Alef version) is in 2ed; the single-floppy version doesn't seem to have the binary. Looking at the screenshot that Will sent me directly, the dates on the binaries match up to 2ed release.

I'm pretty sure the four-floppy set that came with the CDROM has the acme binary. I don't have any floppy drives that I trust to look at my copy.
Interestingly enough, I found an old 4 floppy set of vd's in the same folder with the demo image. It looks like they are Nov 1995 (I apparently winimaged them from floppies back then). When I boot disk 1, it complains about not having an mbr partition and bails. I'm guessing it's expecting some OS and hard disk to be present to install to. 



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