From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net From: "Mathieu Lonjaret" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:53:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20d109f0282a31f9707bb70db11c0864@kw.quanstro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-duhqmvbrysntmxpjvxoxzeuhjz" Subject: Re: [9fans] unknown error message Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3300c172-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-duhqmvbrysntmxpjvxoxzeuhjz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it can be easier in a sense that you sometimes get the explanation that you would not have gotten in a obvious manner by reading the code. If I don't need the answer to the issue right away, and if I want to work on something else in the meanwhile, it can be better to wait and see what you wise guys come up with, rather that going head first and grok the whole context where the piece of code is. Especially if I'm unfamiliar with that part of the code. Yes, it's a form of lazyness, but not just for the sake of being lazy ;) Mathieu --upas-duhqmvbrysntmxpjvxoxzeuhjz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpl@smgl.fr.eu.org Delivered-To: mpl@smgl.fr.eu.org Received: by serenity.smgl.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EE0F132CFD; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:50:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on serenity.smgl.fr.eu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=1.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by serenity.smgl.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D1832CF8 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so5159651iwn.41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.148.143 with SMTP id p15mr4872467ibv.15.1276483830845; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-To: mpl@smgl.fr.eu.org X-Forwarded-For: mathieu.lonjaret@gmail.com mpl@smgl.fr.eu.org Delivered-To: mathieu.lonjaret@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.17.5 with SMTP id q5cs22237iba; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.196.221 with SMTP id eh29mr5708212ibb.180.1276483829029; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gouda.swtch.com (gouda.swtch.com [67.207.142.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c1si6213731ibg.58.2010.06.13.19.50.28; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 9fans-bounces+mathieu.lonjaret=gmail.com@9fans.net designates 67.207.142.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=67.207.142.3; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9fans-bounces+mathieu.lonjaret=gmail.com@9fans.net designates 67.207.142.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=9fans-bounces+mathieu.lonjaret=gmail.com@9fans.net Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gouda.swtch.com) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <9fans-bounces@9fans.net>) id 1ONzkS-0000vv-WC; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:50:05 +0000 Received: from ladd.quanstro.net ([69.55.170.73]) by gouda.swtch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONzkQ-0000vq-Bp for 9fans@9fans.net; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:50:02 +0000 From: erik quanstrom Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:46:27 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <20d109f0282a31f9707bb70db11c0864@kw.quanstro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] unknown error message X-BeenThere: 9fans@9fans.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+mathieu.lonjaret=gmail.com@9fans.net > Thanks, that's what I was curious about. shoulda grepped but figured > one of you would know off the top of your head. :) is posting to 9fans now easier than grep? probablly not. recently i've been working with a few non-plan 9 guys, and the ones that take the time to look at the system are at first appalled by the simplicity. that's it? really, that's it. i've learned to ignore that. inevitably, a question similar to this thread comes up. how to i find xyz. i get xyz error message. well, g xyz /sys/src. that's it? really, that's it. i think the complexity of most systems can knock one of one's rhythm and forget that it can be as appalingly simple as grep. plan 9 is fairly unique in that it's a system one can reasonablly hope to understand by reading the source. that's it? really, that's it. - erik --upas-duhqmvbrysntmxpjvxoxzeuhjz--