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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:29:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor
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// Bite if you please. Hook, line, and sinker ;-)

Oh, I'm waiting for a phone call before bed. What the hell.

My job has nothing to do with your 1-3. I agree with Steve exactly: I
use Plan 9 because it allows me to get my job done easier. My job
includes some programming, some document writing, lots of
reading. I've never been employed to count columns or fold lines. I
use Acme (even when not on Plan 9) because, at least for me, the
interface encourages good mental habits that help me produce
quality stuff.

I find the applications and interfaces in Plan 9 to be far more
consistent and convenient than in other systems. That's true both
for programming interfaces and user interfaces. This means I can
let the system do its job and get out of my way without having to
think about it as much as I do elsewhere.

You're also engaging in all sorts of poor logic in the "No True
Scotsman" family in order to try and exclude folks like Coraid
who're really excellent counter-examples to your claims: they
use Plan 9 not for (the benefit of) Plan 9, but because it allows them
to build products (for other people who likely have no idea Plan 9
is involved) easier.

If Acme (or Plan 9 generally) don't fit your style well, that's fine. If
the interfaces don't have the same beneficial effects for you as they
do for me, that's fine (academically, I might speculate on why).
Feel free not to use it. But to imply that people who are actually
using the system productively are either delusional or just don't
exist is highly insulting.

Anthony