From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update In-Reply-To: <2889.3f7d9e85.4e7aa@blake.inputplus.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-snhalllgojqduzvpbmzkgcreie" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:55:34 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 621f6c74-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-snhalllgojqduzvpbmzkgcreie Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't even realize that there were hardware enforced passwords on disks. I just looked up ata specs and found a whole slew of security cruft I never knew about. Thanks. --upas-snhalllgojqduzvpbmzkgcreie Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Oct 6 05:17:41 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Oct 6 05:17:38 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C396919C00; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0E81219BF3; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:16:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D42B19B7A; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF11C19BC9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1A6RFB-0000Vd-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:01:29 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <2889.3f7d9e85.4e7aa@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:01:20 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi David, > The worm/virus problem is not really addressed. If they take over > your machine and you have a legitimate way to send authenticated > email, we're screwed. What I don't understand is why the worms don't trigger some harm at some point in the future, like setting the hard drive password to a random string. Requiring the `master' password from the drive manufacturer or OEM would cause enourmous amounts of hassle. The worm would have meanwhile re-produced elsewhere so its not `shooting itself in the head'. Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ --upas-snhalllgojqduzvpbmzkgcreie--