* [9fans] Display problem [not found] <20040523160016.E96CF19A7A@mail.cse.psu.edu> @ 2004-05-23 21:24 ` Wynand Winterbach 2004-05-23 21:51 ` Russ Cox 2004-05-24 13:41 ` Thomas Miller 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Wynand Winterbach @ 2004-05-23 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans First a bit of useless history (may be skipped): Originally I heard about Plan 9 in a CS lecture at uni. The lecturer was raving about how cool it was, but that it wasn't "object oriented" etc. In my ignorance I dismissed it (what a stupid mistake). A while ago I read Eric Raymond's "The Art of Unix Programming", and I read about Plan 9, but he spoke about it as if it was more or less dead. Then the other day I stumbled across it on the Net, and started reading more. The more I read, the more excited I got. I have to tag down to my local cyber cafe for internet access, since I'm a poor student, and net access is comparatively expensive in South Africa. However, I was adamant that Plan 9 must be the coolest thing since sliced bread, and I blew a few bucks to download the distro. ---- Greatly excited, I installed it, and the installation went well. After that is where things however went awry... When I boot up, everything goes well until it starts up Rio. It prints 3 lines (where pc differs for each): fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C then it prints character by character (SLOWLY): dossrc: serving #s/dos After this it continues in its slow char by char mode, and prints the previous line (the one starting with fifo). I assume this line is a debug line, and that pc is the program counter? Anyhow, nothing happens after that :( I have a classic Athlon, a Via KX 133 (I think) motherboard, which uses the 82C686 IDE chipset, and an Nvidia TNT 2 - according to the Wiki, this setup should work flawlessly. I tried to replace the TNT 2 with an old ATI board (I don't know which one it is. A Rage board I think) - this allowed me at least to see a highly corrupted version of the window manager, but it was pretty useless. I'm really disappointed, since this OS seems so cool. If anyone has any short (less than 160 characters) suggestions, please send them to 0824576827@voda.co.za, which will deliver a text message to my mobile phone :). Thanks in advance. -- Wynand Winterbach wynand@dip.sun.ac.za --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER Anything said within this e-mail is solely the opinion of Wynand Winterbach. No orginisation with which Wynand Winterbach is affiliated or associated in any way whatsoever may be held responsible in any way for anything said, implied or otherwise insinuated in this e-mail. Id est, hold your legal horses! --------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMERCIALISM RANT COMMERCIALISM RANT COMMERCIALISM RANT Consumerism = bad. Why? Comsumers are meant *only* to consume. What can I do!? Go the Open Source way: 1. General info http://www.libresociety.org http://www.gnu.org 2. Music, Movies, and other media http://www.locarecords.com http://creativecommons.org http://www.free-music.org 3. Software http://www.gnu.org http://www.linux.org http://www.debian.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Display problem 2004-05-23 21:24 ` [9fans] Display problem Wynand Winterbach @ 2004-05-23 21:51 ` Russ Cox 2004-05-23 22:04 ` boyd, rounin 2004-05-24 13:41 ` Thomas Miller 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2004-05-23 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs There is something wrong with the video acceleration for your card. Put echo hwaccel off >/dev/vgactl in your profile before you start rio, or in termrc right after running aux/vga. This will turn off hardware acceleration. It will be slow, but not nearly as slow as what you're seeing now! Russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Display problem 2004-05-23 21:51 ` Russ Cox @ 2004-05-23 22:04 ` boyd, rounin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: boyd, rounin @ 2004-05-23 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs back to a bit of history: you could see write(fd, &c, 1) on the blit 'cos it was all packaged up in a packet, with CRC, and multiplexed down at 19.2k baud iirc. running things _slowly_ often displays weird bugs, that you would not necessarily see. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Display problem 2004-05-23 21:24 ` [9fans] Display problem Wynand Winterbach 2004-05-23 21:51 ` Russ Cox @ 2004-05-24 13:41 ` Thomas Miller 2004-05-24 14:01 ` Thomas Miller 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Thomas Miller @ 2004-05-24 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Wynand Winterbach <wynand@dip.sun.ac.za> wrote: > When I boot up, everything goes well until it starts up Rio. > > It prints 3 lines (where pc differs for each): > fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C > fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C > fifo stat 0 scrio dc000000 scr 80304C74 pc 80171E9C > > then it prints character by character (SLOWLY): > dossrc: serving #s/dos > > After this it continues in its slow char by char mode, and prints the > previous line (the one starting with fifo). > > I assume this line is a debug line, and that pc is the program > counter? > > Anyhow, nothing happens after that :( > > I have a classic Athlon, a Via KX 133 (I think) motherboard, which > uses the 82C686 IDE chipset, and an Nvidia TNT 2 - according to the > Wiki, this setup should work flawlessly. I tried to replace the TNT 2 > with an old ATI board (I don't know which one it is. A Rage board I > think) - this allowed me at least to see a highly corrupted version of > the window manager, but it was pretty useless. > > I'm really disappointed, since this OS seems so cool. Hi, I had this same problem last month with apparently the same or similar video card. The problem goes away when I recompile *both* kernel and userland with the latest sources. Recompiling the kernel alone, even from latest sources, is insufficient to resolve the problem here. I confirmed this yesterday by making a fresh install from a fresh distribution iso downloaded yesterday. I still had to recompile both kernel and userland. Here is the google archive to the 9fans discussion last month (sorry about the long line length :-): http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=68e8e91fed094a7c&seekm=407F31CF.nail9O11TLQU%40insolvencyhelp.org&rnum=2 I still do not understand the cause of the problem and why it seems necessary to recompile both the kernel and userland. I'm glad, however, that the recompilation fixes the problem. I am running kfs with 9pcdisk. According to 'X --configure' running with XFree86 Version 4.4.0 under NetBSD-current i386, my video card is "nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/ Model 64 Pro]." HTH, Tom ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Display problem 2004-05-24 13:41 ` Thomas Miller @ 2004-05-24 14:01 ` Thomas Miller 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Thomas Miller @ 2004-05-24 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans "Thomas Miller" <tom@insolvencyhelp.org> wrote: > I am running kfs with 9pcdisk. According to 'X > --configure' running with XFree86 Version 4.4.0 > under NetBSD-current i386, my video card is > "nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/ > Model 64 Pro]." -configure only one `-' ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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