From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:19:47 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] gmail's new POP features + upas/fs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0a05126c-eace-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 I think gmail is doing funny things. Specifically, they make some noises in the pop documentation (such as it is) that the first time you check your mail you get the first batch (say 300) of messages, then the next time you get the next 300 or so, and so on. If that's really going on, that they remember which messages they've handed to pop and don't hand in a message more than once, then upas/fs will not deal well with that. Upas/fs really expects that it's manipulating a permanent mailbox. It's not a typical usage of pop (the typical usage is download, perhaps delete from server, and keep locally even if the message disappears from the server) but it usually works. Gmail might be breaking the rules. You could use a trivial little pop3 client to download everything once and put it in an mbox, but that's silly and you might as well just turn on forwarding instead. What I really want is to have gmail pop present exactly my inbox -- nothing less nothing more -- and when I "delete" something I really want it just moved out of my inbox and archived. That doesn't seem to be an option. Russ