From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:46 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Jack Johnson Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie question on printing In-Reply-To: <6e35c0620507260846710ec8cc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <954853031a0cf97c301740a691d34b4e@tombob.com> <6e35c0620507260846710ec8cc@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6f354c72-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 7/26/05, Jack Johnson wrote: > On 7/26/05, Russ Cox wrote: > > Modern Unix printing is a catastrophe. Plan 9 printing is only a mess. >=20 > What's your take on IPP? I don't care which protocol is used on the network. They all seem simple enough. It's the software on the ends that is the disaster. CUPS in particular is enormous and seems to prevent me from=20 printing more than it enables me to print. My worst experience with CUPS was on Mac OS X. I was trying to configure the printing via the GUI (I didn't even know that CUPS was underneath), and CUPS kept seg faulting. It took hours=20 before I figured that was why the printer service kept ending up in the "off" state. I admit that being able to expose printer capabilities to clients=20 and have painless configuration is a great goal, and for Windows+CUPS maybe it gets there, but sitting on Unix all I want to do is send postscript and see the resulting pages come out of the printer. And that is too hard far too often. Amazingly, I think the Plan 9 lp is actually getting simpler as time goes on. Slowly. Russ