From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:39:50 +0200 From: Christian Walther To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72aec95a-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hi list, this question is rather easy, compared to the topics discussed otherwise. But I'm new to Plan 9, I managed to install one of my PC boxes successfully. Right now, I'm stuck with the networks configuration: I know what I have to change, but not how. Files inside /lib/ndb belong to sys:sys, and I don't know how to change my users data, or wich user to use to edit these files. So, any help is very welcome. :) Bye, Christian Walther From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <82c890d00508030506270fdd42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:06:18 +0200 From: Gabriel Diaz To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? In-Reply-To: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2307_32851340.1123070778067" References: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72b37d38-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_2307_32851340.1123070778067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi I think you should take a look to the wiki pages, there there is a topic=20 about users and filesystems iirc. see man fossilcons for information as well. gabi 2005/8/3, Christian Walther : >=20 > Hi list, >=20 > this question is rather easy, compared to the topics discussed > otherwise. But I'm new to Plan 9, I managed to install one of my PC > boxes successfully. Right now, I'm stuck with the networks > configuration: I know what I have to change, but not how. Files inside > /lib/ndb belong to sys:sys, and I don't know how to change my users > data, or wich user to use to edit these files. >=20 > So, any help is very welcome. :) >=20 > Bye, > Christian Walther > ------=_Part_2307_32851340.1123070778067 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi

I think you should take a look to the wiki pages, there there is a topic ab= out users and filesystems iirc.

see man fossilcons for information as well.

gabi

2005/8/3, Christian Walther &l= t;cptsalek@gmail.com>:<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi list,

this question is rather easy, compared to the topics discus= sed
otherwise. But I'm new to Plan 9, I managed to install one of my PC<= br>boxes successfully. Right now, I'm stuck with the networks
configurat= ion: I know what I have to change, but not how. Files inside
/lib/ndb belong to sys:sys, and I don't know how to change my users
= data, or wich user to use to edit these files.

So, any help is very = welcome. :)

Bye,
Christian Walther

------=_Part_2307_32851340.1123070778067-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: "Retzki, Sascha [Xplain]" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:47:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72bbb976-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This page contains information you may want, too: http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/setting_up_fossil/index.html The thing about the -AWP switch may interest you. 2005/8/3, Christian Walther : Hi list, this question is rather easy, compared to the topics discussed otherwise. But I'm new to Plan 9, I managed to install one of my PC boxes successfully. Right now, I'm stuck with the networks configuration: I know what I have to change, but not how. Files inside /lib/ndb belong to sys:sys, and I don't know how to change my users data, or wich user to use to edit these files. So, any help is very welcome. :) Bye, Christian Walther From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> To: cptsalek@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:26:48 +0100 From: Robert Raschke In-Reply-To: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72c025d8-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hello Christian, I usually do this on my cpu/auth/venti/fossil console: % con -l /srv/fscons main: srv -AWP fsAWP +q to exit this and then % mount /srv/fsAWP /n/fossil % cd /n/fossil/lib/ndb and edit to your hearts content. I don't usually run rio on my console, so I've become reasonably proficient in ed ;-) But you can start rio and then use sam or acme, which can make lots of editing a lot easier. Robby From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:33:32 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? In-Reply-To: <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72c39d8a-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 For what it's worth, at Bell Labs we never use -AWP. Instead we add people (once) to group sys: uname sys +you and then you can edit all the system files you want. Russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:39:27 -0600 From: andrey mirtchovski To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72c9cfe8-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > and then you can edit all the system files you want. there are a few files in /sys/src that are not group writable. i'll send you a list of those files in a separate email. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:02:09 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: andrey mirtchovski Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 72cf9112-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > > and then you can edit all the system files you want. >=20 > there are a few files in /sys/src that are not group writable. i'll send = you > a list of those files in a separate email. thanks, fixed. once you're in sys, of course, you can chmod them yourself, since the directories are okay. russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <14989d6e050808063327f9bd22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:33:33 +0200 From: Christian Walther To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <14989d6e05080304395160eb17@mail.gmail.com> <7ca7c15a57a50549db5704ee9f7d9437@tombob.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 748415fa-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hi Fans, thank you for all your answers. I did as Russ suggested and now everything works fine. My next task will be to go through all the documents found in the wiki, but I have to admit that this is a rather painfull task for a newbie. I'm to Unix and as such I'm used to read manpages and other sources of information. But it's sometimes difficult to locate the piece of information needed to perform a certain task, especially if one doesn't know how to perform a certain task. I read some of the papers found on Plan 9s website, but it's just theory as long as one doesn't really work with/on a system. Because of this, my idea would be to extend the information in the Wiki to some sort of "First steps with Plan 9" document. This is not only about basic information but about "best practices", too. There are several ways of performing a certain task most of the time, but it needs some experience to figure out which way is the best. When this experience is provided by long term Plan 9 users, this can give newbies an impression how to work with it. Please don't get me wrong: I'm not asking for a step by step manual describing to me everything I need to know (something like "Plan 9 for dummies"), I don't bother reading manpages and manuals, it was just an idea of how to improve things. (Somehow I feel I'm missing the point, but I hope you'll understand what I mean anyway.) I would be happy to help here, but before I need to get more into Plan 9. I'm keeping track of my progress and problems on my weblog: http://cptsalek.de Bye, Christian From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: "Retzki, Sascha [Xplain]" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 17:42:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Topicbox-Message-UUID: 74bfd13a-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Walther [mailto:cptsalek@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:34 PM > To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to change UserID/Group to edit files in /lib/ndb? > > Hi Fans, > > thank you for all your answers. I did as Russ suggested and now > everything works fine. My next task will be to go through all the > documents found in the wiki, but I have to admit that this is a rather > painfull task for a newbie. I'm to Unix and as such I'm used to read > manpages and other sources of information. But it's sometimes > difficult to locate the piece of information needed to perform a > certain task, especially if one doesn't know how to perform a certain > task. > I read some of the papers found on Plan 9s website, but it's just > theory as long as one doesn't really work with/on a system. > > Because of this, my idea would be to extend the information in the > Wiki to some sort of "First steps with Plan 9" document. What about calling it "Plan9 for Unix users"? I am under the impression 90% of Plan9 beginners (including myself, btw ;-)) are Unix-users. > This is not > only about basic information but about "best practices", too. There > are several ways of performing a certain task most of the time, but it > needs some experience to figure out which way is the best. When this > experience is provided by long term Plan 9 users, this can give > newbies an impression how to work with it. > Amen. The problem is not to find a problem, but to find a solution ;-) I know some 9fans from IRC (freenode), among those some persons that succeeded in understanding Plan9 (enough to work with it), are unix-users and want to write Documentation of this purpose - of course, wanting to work, finding time to work and doing the work are three different things (again, including myself)