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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@swtch.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone to try to convert Acme to full UI (w/graphics)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:16:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee9e417a0610300716l3df54795ld84b8df8699b27a5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C521A5F6-6A3D-415C-8F25-72FAA808FD69@telus.net>

> Because some people like the tag/command line per window (acme) and
> others like the single command window (sam)?

You certainly won't see sam and acme merged into a single UI
that satisfies everyone.

> I occasionally use sam as a stream editor, but I couldn't imagine
> doing all my work in it.  The cut and paste mechanic feels so awkward
> compared to acme's.

It's just different.  I started out using sam and only switched to acme
to get button 3 while editing HTML, or for editing very large files,
and then I got hooked.  Even so, these days I do probably 50% acme on
local files, 50% sam -r on faraway files, and I don't notice the cut and
paste issue in sam.  (It probably helps that I type ESC to cut, so my
middle button menu is usually on paste already.)

I have toyed with the idea of building up some sam protocol tools,
including a multiplexor and a version of acme that uses a remote
sam as a back end.

> Say...Does anyone know of a patch for OS X that
> makes chording work?  Then I could bind to copy and paste properly.

See #define chording in
http://swtch.com/usr/local/plan9/src/cmd/samterm/main.c

Some people have seen it cause deadlocks.  Others apparently
use it all the time without problem.  I can't understand how it
could cause a deadlock if the non-chording code is correct,
but maybe the non-chording code avoids whatever race is
going on because there are fewer clicks flying around.

Russ


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-30 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-23  7:30 cej
2006-10-23 10:34 ` Alexander Sychev
2006-10-23 11:56   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2006-10-23 12:21     ` Alexander Sychev
2006-10-24  5:55     ` cej
2006-10-24  5:55   ` cej
2006-10-24 15:08     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-10-25  4:31       ` cej
2006-10-25 16:33         ` Joel Salomon
2006-10-25 16:54           ` Russ Cox
2006-10-25 17:21             ` Russ Cox
2006-10-25 17:27               ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-25 17:42               ` Tad Hunt
2006-10-25 18:07                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-10-25 18:19                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-25 18:24                     ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-25 17:55               ` rog
2006-10-25 18:17                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-10-26 18:13             ` David Leimbach
2006-10-26 18:22               ` Sascha Retzki
2006-10-26 18:30                 ` David Leimbach
2006-10-26 18:35                 ` rog
2006-10-30 19:05                   ` Joel Salomon
2006-10-30 19:34                     ` Paul Hebble
2006-10-26 18:24               ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-10-26 21:39                 ` David Leimbach
2006-10-27  7:00             ` cej
2006-10-27  8:37               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-10-27 11:24               ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-27 14:04               ` Russ Cox
2006-10-28 19:27               ` Paweł Lasek
2006-10-24 15:25     ` Alexander Sychev
2006-10-25  4:29       ` cej
2006-10-25  4:57         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-10-25 16:18         ` Joel Salomon
2006-10-30  6:23           ` cej
2006-10-30  6:33             ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-30 12:56               ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-30 15:16               ` Russ Cox [this message]
2006-10-30 15:25                 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-10-30 15:30                 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-30 16:17             ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-10-31  5:33               ` cej
2006-10-31 18:33                 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-11-01  6:21                   ` cej
2006-10-23 11:10 ` Tony Lainson
2006-10-23 17:31 ` lucio
2006-10-25 18:04 ` Sascha Retzki
2006-10-25 18:12   ` Sascha Retzki
2006-10-25 18:18   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-25 18:23     ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-25 20:15       ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-25 20:38         ` erik quanstrom
2006-10-25 20:57           ` Tim Wiess
2006-10-25 21:14             ` Paul Lalonde
2006-10-25 18:25     ` Sascha Retzki
2006-10-25 20:16       ` Paul Lalonde

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