From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] protection against resource exhaustion
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:42:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef38772d8e3de1d1e8dae7a8e45889f9@brasstown.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOw7k5hocVshTBBvXA86x91PpZ1hBBdAbMUBao+vCGL2wH9ryw@mail.gmail.com>
> You might also be running services on it, and it's reasonable that it
> should manage its resources. It's best to refuse a new load if it
> won't fit, but that requires a fairly careful system design and works
> best in closed systems. In a capability system you'd have to present
> a capability to create a process, and it's easy to ration them.
> Inside Plan 9, one could have a nested resource allocation scheme for
> the main things without too much trouble. Memory is a little
> different because you either under-use (by reserving space) or
> over-commit, as usually happens with file-system quotas.
>
> With memory, I had some success with a hybrid scheme, still not
> intended for multi-user, but it could be extended to do that. The
> system accounts in advance for probable demands of things like
> fork/exec and segment growth (including stack growth). If that
> preallocation is then not used (eg, because of copy-on-write fork
> before exec) it is gradually written off. When that fails, the system
> looks at the most recently created process groups (note groups) and
> kills them. It differs from the OOM because it doesn't assume that
> the biggest thing is actually the problem. Instead it looks back
> through the most recently-started applications since that corresponded
> to my usage. It's quite common to have long-running components that
> soak up lots of memory (eg, a cache process or fossil) and they often
> aren't the ones that caused the problem. Instead I assume something
> will have started recently that was ill-advised. It would be better
> to track allocation history across process groups and use that instead
> but I needed something simple, and it was reasonably effective.
>
> For resources such as process (slots), network connections, etc I
thanks, charles.
i hope i haven't overplayed my argument. i am for real solutions to this issue.
i'm not for the current solution, or more complicanted variants.
how does one account/adjust for long-running, important processes, say forking for
a small but important task?
perhaps an edf-like scheme predeclaring the expected usage for "important" processes
might work?
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-29 6:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-25 6:16 arisawa
2015-01-25 6:59 ` mischief
2015-01-25 17:41 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-26 11:47 ` arisawa
2015-01-26 12:46 ` cinap_lenrek
2015-01-26 14:13 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-27 0:33 ` arisawa
2015-01-27 1:30 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-01-27 4:13 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-27 4:22 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-27 7:03 ` arisawa
2015-01-27 7:10 ` Ori Bernstein
2015-01-27 7:15 ` lucio
2015-01-27 14:05 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-27 7:12 ` lucio
2015-01-27 14:10 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-28 0:10 ` arisawa
2015-01-28 3:38 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-28 6:50 ` arisawa
2015-01-28 7:22 ` lucio
2015-01-28 7:48 ` Quintile
2015-01-28 13:13 ` cinap_lenrek
2015-01-28 14:03 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-28 14:09 ` lucio
2015-01-28 14:14 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-28 14:53 ` lucio
2015-01-28 17:02 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2015-01-28 14:16 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-28 17:28 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-01-28 17:39 ` cinap_lenrek
2015-01-28 18:51 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-01-29 3:57 ` arisawa
2015-01-29 6:34 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-29 6:42 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2015-01-29 8:11 ` arisawa
2015-01-27 10:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-01-27 14:01 ` erik quanstrom
2015-01-25 9:04 ` arisawa
2015-01-25 11:06 ` Bence Fábián
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