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And I al= so > have some problem. I don't use any GNU or Linux related stuffs. Most of t= he > ISO burner are from GUN. I used the one that comes with Windows and also > tried Rufus(though I don't like GNU related stuffs) but failed. However w= ith > which program do you burn a .iso on plan9? and Is that program > Cross-platform? No, it is not cross-platform; little in Plan 9 is. I may as well warn you now that Plan 9 is very much minimalistics and does not come with an archive of tens of thousands of utilities to duplicate tasks that one can perform with a little learning using much simpler command line tools. And that is just a small aspect that may well surprise you. Go has created a new paradigm (not to everybody's liking, understandably) by enforcing portability, but like Plan 9, does not focus on fancy graphics, so the applications tend to be more services. 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot support for 6 years. I use an earlier version of their iplpxe on my 64-bit cpu servers (not booting 9front). I did use the iplfat and ipliso as well to boot other kernels. When I've got a moment I might diff to see what changes I made. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:08 PM Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > 1. Dual booting is not possible > > 2. UEFI introduced vulnerabilities ... >=20 > Don't these two things cancel each other out? Can we not use > the same vulnerabilities to induce the firmware to boot our > own choice of operating system? It wouldn't be the first time > Plan 9 was installed using ... shall we say unofficial methods? >=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4a54d17e4c0f6c20-M262ce= affeb17d280215d6454 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --000000000000202f3505be72130a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot suppo= rt for 6 years.

I use an earlier version of their iplpxe on my 64-= bit cpu servers (not booting 9front).

I did use the iplfat = and ipliso as well to boot other kernels.

When I've got a mom= ent I might diff to see what changes I made.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at= 3:08 PM Richard Miller <9fans@ham= navoe.com> wrote:

> 1. Dual booting is not possible
> 2. UEFI introduced vulnerabilities ...

Don't these two things cancel each other out? Can we not use
the same vulnerabilities to induce the firmware to boot our
own choice of operating system? It wouldn't be the first time
Plan 9 was installed using ... shall we say unofficial methods?

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That reminds me that this https://retrage.github.io/2020/08/01/9pfspkg-en.html looked quite interesting but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:20 PM Charles Forsyth wrote: > I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot support for 6 years. > I use an earlier version of their iplpxe on my 64-bit cpu servers (not > booting 9front). > I did use the iplfat and ipliso as well to boot other kernels. > When I've got a moment I might diff to see what changes I made. > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:08 PM Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > >> > 1. Dual booting is not possible >> > 2. UEFI introduced vulnerabilities ... >>=20 >> Don't these two things cancel each other out? Can we not use >> the same vulnerabilities to induce the firmware to boot our >> own choice of operating system? It wouldn't be the first time >> Plan 9 was installed using ... shall we say unofficial methods? >>=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4a54d17e4c0f6c20-M4773c= 5f1d46810c88aa46837 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --000000000000ce8b0805be721504 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:20 PM Charles Forsyt= h <charles.forsyth@gmail.co= m> wrote:

I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot support for 6 = years.
I use an earlier version of their iplpxe on my 64-bit cpu s= ervers (not booting 9front).
I did use the iplfat and iplis= o as well to boot other kernels.
When I've got a moment I mig= ht diff to see what changes I made.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:08 PM = Richard Miller <= 9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> 1. Dual booting is not possible
> 2. UEFI introduced vulnerabilities ...

Don't these two things cancel each other out? Can we not use
the same vulnerabilities to induce the firmware to boot our
own choice of operating system? It wouldn't be the first time
Plan 9 was installed using ... shall we say unofficial methods?

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From: Lucio De Re Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:32:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 52946bfe-8fb9-11eb-a297-debed3a67edf Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNGE1NGQxN2U0YzBmNmMyMC1NODZlNzU1YmZiYmJmYWE0Yjc4ZjUx?= =?UTF-8?B?NmJjPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M86e755bfbbbfaa4b78f516bc:1:PMVahtvWx0RkMZT2quScNCcm0CiX1bd0EIBz3Vm2KLc On 3/26/21, Charles Forsyth wrote: > That reminds me that this > https://retrage.github.io/2020/08/01/9pfspkg-en.html looked quite > interesting but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. > I have followed the instructions and with a little help (I filed an issue and I got a prompt, helpful response - I also discovered I needed "nasm" on my LinuxMint system), I completed the build successfully. So, Charles, if you know what to do with the extremely interesting product, please provide some guidance :-). I have no idea of the context in which the remaining instructions are meant to be executed. Lucio. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4a54d17e4c0f6c20-M86e75= 5bfbbbfaa4b78f516bc Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription