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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:26:07 -0500
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Glendix?
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> Admittedly how one deals with udev and other such linux userspace
> monsters might be  tricky, but I think that is the whole point, to
> replace such things with saner Plan 9-based solutions.

i see two problems with this.

1.  linux interfaces change all the time, requiring constant linux tinkering.
2.  covering up the linux interface will always be imperfect.  you won't
be able to ignore it's existance and i think you underestimate the amount
of glue code required.  p9p succeedes because it refuses to do this.

i am reminded by a line from the labs' response to ast's usenix posting
   - UNIX can be successfully run as an application program
        `Run' perhaps, `successfully' no.  Name a product that succeeds
        by running UNIX as an application.

s/UNIX/Plan 9/g

- erik

reference: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.research/browse_thread/thread/7f0d9faf290b8ce2/598d4a31d5c1aac7?lnk=gst&q=presotto#598d4a31d5c1aac7