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From: "Steve Simon" <steve@quintile.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:30:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1af614af35a2f189337e2c876ab9353@quintile.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTvk4aF-n5BWTJw-7D7lKXhY3708KFvsqcPpKC@mail.gmail.com>

> But you can do at least as good as these forms of ID. PKI requires
> knowledge of some sort of passkey. (I just worry about identification
> for people who are not smart enough to pick a good key. Which,
> unfortunately, is also most people.

My understanding is a passkey just needs sufficent entropy in order to be strong.

This can be a few characters drawn from a larger characterset - your password must
be no more than 16 chars and must contain upper and lower case numbers and punctuation.

Alternatively it could be a long string made up of a restricted character set - your
pass phrase can consist of any text characters but must not contain long repitations
and be of at least 200 characters long (say).

Thus a passphrase may be a quote from your favorite movie, a lyric or the like. This
can then be hashed into a higher entropy string (is this statement true?) used for
authentication.

I don't understand why modern security systems have an upper limit on passphrase length.

(waits for people who know better to tell him he is dumb).

-Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-29 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-28 22:32 ron minnich
2010-06-28 23:10 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-06-29  2:28 ` Wes Kussmaul
2010-06-29  2:46   ` Stanley Lieber
2010-06-29 17:13     ` Wes Kussmaul
2010-06-29 17:27       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2010-06-29 18:30         ` Steve Simon [this message]
2010-06-29 18:41           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2010-06-29 18:57             ` erik quanstrom
2010-06-29 19:13               ` Devon H. O'Dell
2010-06-29 19:32                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-06-29 20:00                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2010-06-30 11:28                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-06-30 15:22                       ` Wes Kussmaul
2010-06-30 16:22                       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2010-06-29 20:09                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2010-06-29 21:34                   ` Steve Simon
2010-06-29 19:19         ` Wes Kussmaul
2010-06-29  3:46   ` erik quanstrom
2010-06-29  8:07 ` Akshat Kumar
2010-06-29  9:14   ` hiro
2010-06-29  9:17     ` erik quanstrom
2010-06-29 19:59     ` ron minnich
2010-06-29 13:43 ` Gabriel Díaz
2010-06-29 16:54   ` hiro

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