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From: blstuart@bellsouth.net
To: weigelt@metux.de, 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Binary format
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:38:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f338d576171ccf1ea6e99dc08caaa446@bellsouth.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100217133109.GA10816@nibiru.local>

> * the whole loader sits in the kernel (maybe w/ some additional
>   helper deamon in userland), but userland can pass parameters
>   like search pathes, etc via env.
>
> IMHO having the dynamic loader in kernel-land (in contrary to ELF
> on GNU) not just removes the need for lots of syscalls, but allows
> a lot of optimizations, eg. code sharing w/ mmap() or caching
> relocation data.

If you're interested in how to do dynamic loading in a clean
and elegant way, take a look at Inferno.  Along the lines of
what you're suggesting, everything is a module.  The only
thing necessary to make a module suitable as a program to
run from the command line is the existence of a function
called init() with a particular signature.  After studying and
working with it, all of the other dynamic loading implementations
out there are... well the word that comes to mind is 'disgusting.'

BLS




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-17 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-17 13:31 Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17  8:50 ` Jacob Todd
2010-02-17 13:58   ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 14:01     ` erik quanstrom
2010-02-17 14:06 ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-02-17 14:13   ` David Leimbach
2010-02-17 14:33   ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 14:55     ` Steve Simon
2010-02-17 15:04       ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 15:29         ` erik quanstrom
2010-02-17 15:48         ` blstuart
2010-02-17 17:54           ` lucio
2010-02-17 18:37         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-02-17 19:00         ` Nick LaForge
2010-02-18 15:08         ` Patrick Kelly
2010-02-17 15:58       ` David Leimbach
2010-02-17 16:14       ` Stuart Morrow
2010-02-17 16:28         ` David Leimbach
2010-02-17 18:21           ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 18:34             ` David Leimbach
2010-02-17 19:02               ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 19:35                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 18:38             ` Corey Thomasson
2010-02-18 15:16             ` Patrick Kelly
2010-02-17 15:13     ` Robert Raschke
2010-02-17 21:32     ` Jacob Todd
2010-02-17 21:26   ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2010-02-17 23:16     ` EBo
2010-02-17 23:22       ` David Leimbach
2010-02-17 14:38 ` blstuart [this message]
2010-02-17 14:58   ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-17 15:25     ` blstuart

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