From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: "Steve Simon" Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:08:07 +0100 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: e219e802-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > The Plan9 project started in 1980, took around 9 years to be solid > enough to be usable and that too by the internal and, or lab people > [http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/9.html] only. I was using plan9 outside of bell labs in 1993 - not very aggressively I admit but I didn't have the skils then that I do now. It was solid and usable at the time. > Whereas, the FreeBSD > and, or Linux (though not an OS or Unix variant in a sense) came into > existence later in 1993 and 1991 respectively are more popular among any > other variants of Unix. I first remember seeing references to Linux as a reworking of the Minix project in 1988. BSD has been around forever. > IMHO, the Plan9 and, or Inferno are just failed attempts and have no > real and, or viable commercial and, or industrial use in absence of > hardware drivers and, or not the killer but some useful applications. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, its a shame you didn't do more research however. > Moreover, the user interface and, or window manager i.e. rio is too > technical for an average user to put in to a good use. Too "technical"? Really? > It lacks usual > buttons for minimizing (hiding), maximizing, controlling windows. You > can't even send a window to background and even if Inferno's wm has some > of these including title bars, but the meanings and, or behavior of the > same is quite different from other popular GUI systems. Here we agree -Steve Registered Plan9 User #954854834843