From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:35:12 -0500 From: "Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9? In-Reply-To: <16ef1735a4e044af3d1bc05bdc68eaa1@proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5d375e920705111224m6438418etef4d396a1e9bcf23@mail.gmail.com> <16ef1735a4e044af3d1bc05bdc68eaa1@proxima.alt.za> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6668713a-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I am gona put the face to those XXXX, lucio. I am not looking for fame, I am looking to get some hardware working. The system didn't have those drivers, so I googled, I asked and perhaps I asked the wrong place. Ok...Starting several projects, even if they are already done, has tought very interesting and cool things :D But sometimes you can start to think about something else if you can stop worrying about your sata drive, your vga card and your network card. I don't like the sensation of starting something and then, some time after that, getting a message saying "well I did that last eon"... Probably I asked in the wrong places in the beginning. I've noticed that many members of this community do not use IRC. Everybody is free to do whatever suits with their code. I find sources/contrib a good thing, but I have also noticed that there are things missing there. Someone looks for a driver, the driver isn't there... Then looks in 9fans... Ask in irc.. Nobody answers... Until you are facing some problem and ask, a couple of weeks before... It is magic, someone had done that before... All I want... Is world peace, universal love and no child never ever left behind. Bah, It doesn't matter anymore... It is just that I don't feel useful if someone else tells me that has done my work a long time ago... It is like blowing in a pinholed baloon... It will never grow. I am sorry If my complaint offends someone. Cheers! On 5/11/07, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > 12:05 < XXXX> I find quite frustrating to start a project that is > > already done... > > Rather than pleased that something wanted is already available? > Please spare me the whinging and rather admit, both of you here, that > Plan 9 is not ripe for those who seek to stand on the shoulders of > giants, not to see further, but to be noticed from a distance. > > > 12:05 < XXXX> To look for a driver that is already there... > > 12:05 < XXXX> To have an idea that someone else is doing... > > Asking tends to solicit replies. Is it our fault that we aren't > exactly interested in using IRC? > > > 12:06 * XXXX grrrrsss and rants... > > 12:06 < uriel> talking about 9fans? > > 12:06 < XXXX> Of course. > > 12:11 < XXXX> [sources/contrib] is great, as long as people put their > > work there... > > 12:11 < XXXX> And an INDEX... > > No one has ever stopped anyone from setting up a CVS repository or > anything else that might be more useful than sources. But the reality > is that Uriel and colleagues are looking for a platform for fame and > fortune. Sadly, Plan 9 is not "American Idol" and those who really do > contribute are concentrating on their tasks instead of, as Uriel would > like, on making Plan 9 leave up to popularistic expectations. > > My take: "thank fuck!" > > ++L > >