* [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
@ 2026-02-26 8:33 vester.thacker
2026-02-26 15:13 ` Calvin via 9fans
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From: vester.thacker @ 2026-02-26 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: leimy2k via 9fans
Hi everyone,
I am writing to ask whether there has been any discussion regarding California AB 1043 and its age assurance requirements that take effect January 1, 2027. The law appears to require applications to request and honor an operating system or app store age bracket signal at download or launch. Since Plan 9 and 9front do not have an app store model, it is not clear how such a requirement would even be satisfied in this ecosystem.
Has there been any consideration of whether this law applies to distributed Plan 9 or 9front software, or whether maintainers intend to take a specific position? I would appreciate any insight into how the community is thinking about this.
Thank you,
Vester "Vic" Thacker
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* Re: [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
2026-02-26 8:33 [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals vester.thacker
@ 2026-02-26 15:13 ` Calvin via 9fans
2026-02-26 17:22 ` Clout Tolstoy
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From: Calvin via 9fans @ 2026-02-26 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
What happens next is country X decides you must do one thing, and country Y decides you do another, and you come to TECHNICAL problems and BUSINESS problems and ETHICAL problems trying to comply with varying laws in every nation, state, and municipality.
The only answer is to distance yourself and engage in mockery.
On Thursday, February 26th, 2026 at 9:18 AM, vester.thacker@fastmail.fm <vester.thacker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am writing to ask whether there has been any discussion regarding California AB 1043 and its age assurance requirements that take effect January 1, 2027. The law appears to require applications to request and honor an operating system or app store age bracket signal at download or launch. Since Plan 9 and 9front do not have an app store model, it is not clear how such a requirement would even be satisfied in this ecosystem.
>
> Has there been any consideration of whether this law applies to distributed Plan 9 or 9front software, or whether maintainers intend to take a specific position? I would appreciate any insight into how the community is thinking about this.
>
> Thank you,
> Vester "Vic" Thacker
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* Re: [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
2026-02-26 15:13 ` Calvin via 9fans
@ 2026-02-26 17:22 ` Clout Tolstoy
2026-02-26 20:55 ` Stuart Morrow
2026-02-26 22:00 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
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From: Clout Tolstoy @ 2026-02-26 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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The law as written is vague, but it doesn't appear to target the os/kernel
level and is targeting commercial software platforms. An example of how it
would be used is by limiting screen time on certain apps, blocking content
and interactions. What's weird about this law is that the provider is
supposed to collect telemetry data to assert the age the end-user states is
their actual age.. so, perhaps even adults that act like children on the
Internet could be effected.
So, if nobody ports tiktoc or Instagram to plan 9, you probably won't have
to deal with the "signal"
On Thu, Feb 26, 2026, 7:26 AM Calvin via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> What happens next is country X decides you must do one thing, and country
> Y decides you do another, and you come to TECHNICAL problems and BUSINESS
> problems and ETHICAL problems trying to comply with varying laws in every
> nation, state, and municipality.
>
> The only answer is to distance yourself and engage in mockery.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 26th, 2026 at 9:18 AM, vester.thacker@fastmail.fm <
> vester.thacker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I am writing to ask whether there has been any discussion regarding
> California AB 1043 and its age assurance requirements that take effect
> January 1, 2027. The law appears to require applications to request and
> honor an operating system or app store age bracket signal at download or
> launch. Since Plan 9 and 9front do not have an app store model, it is not
> clear how such a requirement would even be satisfied in this ecosystem.
> >
> > Has there been any consideration of whether this law applies to
> distributed Plan 9 or 9front software, or whether maintainers intend to
> take a specific position? I would appreciate any insight into how the
> community is thinking about this.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Vester "Vic" Thacker
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* Re: [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
2026-02-26 15:13 ` Calvin via 9fans
2026-02-26 17:22 ` Clout Tolstoy
@ 2026-02-26 20:55 ` Stuart Morrow
2026-02-26 22:00 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
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From: Stuart Morrow @ 2026-02-26 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> The only answer is to distance yourself and engage in mockery
From and of this thread.
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* Re: [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
2026-02-26 15:13 ` Calvin via 9fans
2026-02-26 17:22 ` Clout Tolstoy
2026-02-26 20:55 ` Stuart Morrow
@ 2026-02-26 22:00 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2026-03-06 0:49 ` hahahahacker2009
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From: Frank D. Engel, Jr. @ 2026-02-26 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
The best solution is probably to move to a different state.
I would never want to live in California. Too many things are known to
cause cancer there.
On 2/26/26 10:13, Calvin via 9fans wrote:
> What happens next is country X decides you must do one thing, and country Y decides you do another, and you come to TECHNICAL problems and BUSINESS problems and ETHICAL problems trying to comply with varying laws in every nation, state, and municipality.
>
> The only answer is to distance yourself and engage in mockery.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 26th, 2026 at 9:18 AM, vester.thacker@fastmail.fm <vester.thacker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am writing to ask whether there has been any discussion regarding California AB 1043 and its age assurance requirements that take effect January 1, 2027. The law appears to require applications to request and honor an operating system or app store age bracket signal at download or launch. Since Plan 9 and 9front do not have an app store model, it is not clear how such a requirement would even be satisfied in this ecosystem.
>>
>> Has there been any consideration of whether this law applies to distributed Plan 9 or 9front software, or whether maintainers intend to take a specific position? I would appreciate any insight into how the community is thinking about this.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Vester "Vic" Thacker
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* Re: [9fans] Question regarding AB 1043 implications for age verification signals
2026-02-26 22:00 ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
@ 2026-03-06 0:49 ` hahahahacker2009
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From: hahahahacker2009 @ 2026-03-06 0:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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Vào 15:39, CN, 1 Th3, 2026 Frank D. Engel, Jr. <fde101@fjrhome.net> đã viết:
> The best solution is probably to move to a different state.
>
> I would never want to live in California. Too many things are known to
> cause cancer there.
>
Can you elaborate?
>
> On 2/26/26 10:13, Calvin via 9fans wrote:
> > What happens next is country X decides you must do one thing, and
> country Y decides you do another, and you come to TECHNICAL problems and
> BUSINESS problems and ETHICAL problems trying to comply with varying laws
> in every nation, state, and municipality.
> >
> > The only answer is to distance yourself and engage in mockery.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, February 26th, 2026 at 9:18 AM, vester.thacker@fastmail.fm
> <vester.thacker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I am writing to ask whether there has been any discussion regarding
> California AB 1043 and its age assurance requirements that take effect
> January 1, 2027. The law appears to require applications to request and
> honor an operating system or app store age bracket signal at download or
> launch. Since Plan 9 and 9front do not have an app store model, it is not
> clear how such a requirement would even be satisfied in this ecosystem.
> >>
> >> Has there been any consideration of whether this law applies to
> distributed Plan 9 or 9front software, or whether maintainers intend to
> take a specific position? I would appreciate any insight into how the
> community is thinking about this.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Vester "Vic" Thacker
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