From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <1fd496f9be4209ee0e31e37f30be3fb3@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:43:23 +0100 To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3859036a-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine, Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I have a working machine. The problems where: realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores. So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money. anyone any suggestions? -Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1fd496f9be4209ee0e31e37f30be3fb3@quintile.net> References: <1fd496f9be4209ee0e31e37f30be3fb3@quintile.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:57:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3e1162e60908041557x58f9b731i81a4b2898abf7650@mail.gmail.com> From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750eed019daa6047058ce4a Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 38735594-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --00151750eed019daa6047058ce4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home. I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of free time to do anything with it. (I already downloaded it) Dave On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine, > Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I > have a working machine. > > The problems where: > realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat > An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier > SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely > A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores. > > So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW > drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor > drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money. > > anyone any suggestions? > > -Steve > > --00151750eed019daa6047058ce4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard = model etc? =A0This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for ho= me.

I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sad= ly, haven't had a lot of free time to do anything with it. =A0(I alread= y downloaded it)

Dave

On Tue, Aug= 4, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine,
Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I
have a working machine.

The problems where:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores.

So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW
drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor
drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money.

anyone any suggestions?

-Steve


--00151750eed019daa6047058ce4a-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:33:50 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60908041557x58f9b731i81a4b2898abf7650@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 38811d6e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard > model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home. > I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of > free time to do anything with it. (I already downloaded it) http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H vesa graphics are quite snappy, though it's a shame to give up the second processor. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:32:33 -0700 From: Roman V Shaposhnik In-reply-to: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-id: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 392d4c6a-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:33 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Steve, can you list the total configuration of this machine... motherboard > > model etc? This sounds a lot like what I was thinking of building for home. > > I also would like to try Erik's new ISO, but sadly, haven't had a lot of > > free time to do anything with it. (I already downloaded it) > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/945/X7SLA.cfm?typ=H > > vesa graphics are quite snappy, though it's a shame to give up the second > processor. This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out there? Thanks, Roman. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:36:31 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 393312f8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out > there? unless you think via is fast enough, you'll have to wait for pine trail. ich7r just requires too much power to go fanless. it's quieter than the buttons on my mouse, though. and absolutely silent in comparison to my genunine model-m keyboard. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net From: Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:21:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 397086b0-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 >> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out >> there? > > unless you think via is fast enough, you'll have to wait for > pine trail. ich7r just requires too much power to go fanless. It does seem bizarre that the atom-330 is rated at 8 watts and is passively cooled, but the chipset is over 20 watts and needs a fan. On my jetway board, I replaced the noisy chipset fan with a scythe mini-kaze which is much quieter. I'm going to see if I can go one step further with a Zalman passive heatsink. Another thought: since I'm not using the onboard graphics (I have a pci vga card so I can use both CPUs), can I shut down the graphics part of the ich7 to draw less power? Or is only the bios able to do that? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net From: Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:28:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 39764ac8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > unless you think via is fast enough, The dual-processor epia board was pretty snappy but it's no longer available. Many of the via processors have sha-1 in microcode, which could be useful for a venti server if someone got around to putting the support into libsec. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: erik quanstrom Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:30:53 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 397f0ce4-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > The dual-processor epia board was pretty snappy but it's no longer > available. > > Many of the via processors have sha-1 in microcode, which could > be useful for a venti server if someone got around to putting the > support into libsec. only if sha1 speed is a bottleneck. is it? - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> References: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:45:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1fc0d9800908060145g15cab0eg36211a703fbfcf09@mail.gmail.com> From: Nick LaForge To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 39e6faac-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out > there? > > Thanks, > Roman. Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick -- for mini-itx: http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm Nick From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1fd496f9be4209ee0e31e37f30be3fb3@quintile.net> References: <1fd496f9be4209ee0e31e37f30be3fb3@quintile.net> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:10:45 +0800 Message-ID: <1d5d51400908061610j26d19dc8t857a2062e1c5f4e1@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernan Bolando To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3a658278-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > I have had loads of problems trying to build a new machine, > Erik has helpd way beyond the call of duty, and finally I > have a working machine. > > The problems where: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0realteck rtl8169 GigE - erik's driver works a treat > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0An intermitant PSU - RMA'ed to supplier > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SATA - Eriks new sd driver works nicely > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0A PATA DVDRW which devata ignores. > > So, all sorted but now I need an IDE (parallel) DVDRW > drive which does work. I was going to just buy a Plexstor > drive as being the reliable name but they seem to be silly money. > > anyone any suggestions? > Hi Steve Its almost the weekend here and I finally had time to try Eriks iso on my atom motherboard. What configuration did you use? I currently have the follwing memory 2Gig sata harddisk 320Gig ide dvdrw liteon I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil I got a few matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take not= es. I tried again and check the defaults that the installer was setting and decided to diable DMA. It didn't crash after that, however after letting it sit for 11 Hours it is still in fmtfossil stage. I can still the disk activity light so I guess it's still doing fmtfossil. During the install it gave me the follwing disk prep. 30Gig fossil 24Gig isect 240Gig arenas I will try send out some more details later. thanks. fernan --=20 http://www.fernski.com From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: erik quanstrom Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:35:21 -0400 To: fernanbolando@mailc.net, 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: <1d5d51400908061610j26d19dc8t857a2062e1c5f4e1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3a773400-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil > I got a few > > matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes. this is due to the awk problem reported this week. i'll roll up another cd this evening. with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the part where awk dies. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:09:39 -0700 From: Roman Shaposhnik In-reply-to: <1fc0d9800908060145g15cab0eg36211a703fbfcf09@mail.gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-id: <5AC847D9-7605-4172-801F-6F083E28F54C@sun.com> References: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> <1fc0d9800908060145g15cab0eg36211a703fbfcf09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3b5f6a86-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Nick LaForge wrote: >> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out >> there? >> >> Thanks, >> Roman. > > Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick > -- for mini-itx: > > http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm All good stuff, but is it available for less than $1K though? Thanks, Roman. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AC847D9-7605-4172-801F-6F083E28F54C@sun.com> References: <1249432353.479.16643.camel@work.SFBay.Sun.COM> <1fc0d9800908060145g15cab0eg36211a703fbfcf09@mail.gmail.com> <5AC847D9-7605-4172-801F-6F083E28F54C@sun.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:17:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdd7ecc9995047083d6dc Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3b69e4c0-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015174bdd7ecc9995047083d6dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roman, The price seems to be $118: http://www.mini-box.com/Intel-D945GSEJT-Mini-ITX-Motherboard Thanks dharani On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Nick LaForge wrote: > >> This one still has a fan. Is there anything decent *and* fanless out >>> there? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roman. >>> >> >> Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanless, uses a 12V DC brick >> -- for mini-itx: >> >> >> http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT/D945GSEJT-overview.htm >> > > All good stuff, but is it available for less than $1K though? > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --0015174bdd7ecc9995047083d6dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roman,
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The price seems to be $118:
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Thanks
dharani

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik= <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
This one still has a fan. Is the= re anything decent *and* fanless out
there?

Thanks,
Roman.

Intel's 'netbook' platform (no amd64) -- fanle= ss, uses a 12V DC brick
-- for mini-itx:

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GSEJT= /D945GSEJT-overview.htm

All good stuff, but is it available for less t= han $1K though?

Thanks,
Roman.


--0015174bdd7ecc9995047083d6dc-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: erik quanstrom Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:49:20 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3ba31a74-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu Aug 6 19:36:22 EDT 2009, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote: > > I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil > > I got a few > > > > matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to take notes. > > this is due to the awk problem reported this week. i'll roll up > another cd this evening. > > with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the > part where awk dies. if you can get your machine on the network, you can use /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk bind /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk /bin/awk i still have to figure out why i can't build a cd after binding awk into a 9660srv fs. well the cd gets built, it's just 20mb too small. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:30:05 +0800 Message-ID: <1d5d51400908070830s246b6cdfo7666e6daa3038070@mail.gmail.com> From: Fernan Bolando To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Intel atom motherboard - success at last Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3d2aebd8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:49 AM, erik quanstrom wrot= e: > On Thu Aug =A06 19:36:22 EDT 2009, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote: >> > I went through all the default during the install and during fmtfossil >> > I got a few >> > >> > matherror ....something and it crashed. I t wen too fast for me to tak= e notes. >> >> this is due to the awk problem reported this week. =A0i'll roll up >> another cd this evening. >> >> with ide turned off, you probablly just haven't gotten to the >> part where awk dies. > > if you can get your machine on the network, you can > use /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0bind /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/awk /bin/awk > > i still have to figure out why i can't build a cd after binding > awk into a 9660srv fs. =A0well the cd gets built, it's just 20mb > too small. I did this 1 . boot the cd. 2. selected all install and all the defaults 3. after bootup...I delete all the install window 4. open new window 5. ip/ipconfig 6. ndb/cs 7. ndb/dns -r 8. srv -n sources.cs.bell-labs.com sources 9. mount -n /srv/sources /n/sources 10. bind /n/sources/quanstro/awk /bin/awk 11. typed inst/mainloop 12. selected fmtfossil. it still crashes with a Faulted awk Did I miss a step?? thanks for the help fernan --=20 http://www.fernski.com