* [9fans] best supported vga card?
@ 2000-07-13 19:42 Steve Kotsopoulos
2000-07-13 19:45 ` Andrey Mirtchovski
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From: Steve Kotsopoulos @ 2000-07-13 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-13 19:42 [9fans] best supported vga card? Steve Kotsopoulos
@ 2000-07-13 19:45 ` Andrey Mirtchovski
2000-07-14 9:18 ` Dave Turner
2000-07-18 1:49 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: Andrey Mirtchovski @ 2000-07-13 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Steve Kotsopoulos wrote:
> given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
> acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
> the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
>
> I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.
ATI Xpert@Work 8meg works fine at 1280x1024x24... Acceleration seems to
be good and the speed is at least 2x the non-accelerated one.
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-13 19:42 [9fans] best supported vga card? Steve Kotsopoulos
2000-07-13 19:45 ` Andrey Mirtchovski
@ 2000-07-14 9:18 ` Dave Turner
2000-07-18 1:49 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: Dave Turner @ 2000-07-14 9:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
steve@nevex.com (Steve Kotsopoulos) wrote:
>given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
>acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
>the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
>
>I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.
Best Buy had them on sale last week for $49.99 with a $10 rebate from
ATI.
I could not get my S3 Trio64 to work at all but the Xpert 98 works fine.
Regards,
Dave
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-13 19:42 [9fans] best supported vga card? Steve Kotsopoulos
2000-07-13 19:45 ` Andrey Mirtchovski
2000-07-14 9:18 ` Dave Turner
@ 2000-07-18 1:49 ` Milan Zimmermann
2000-07-19 14:07 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
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From: Milan Zimmermann @ 2000-07-18 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Hello,
I am going to build a PC which I want to run Plan 9. On my other PC's at
home I have problems with the video cards.
The consensus seems to be here that ATI Xpert 98 is supported well, so
that looks like a buy. I know there is an Xpert 98 AGP/8Mb.
I have a few questions/does someone here have knowledge of:
- does anyone have (any) supported (I mean working) card with 16Mb or
32 Mb? I'd like to get more than 8Mb
- is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version? (well there may not
be a PCI version...)
Thanks, Milan
Steve Kotsopoulos wrote:
>
> given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
> acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
> the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
>
> I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-18 1:49 ` Milan Zimmermann
@ 2000-07-19 14:07 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-07-19 15:17 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: Douglas A. Gwyn @ 2000-07-19 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> - is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version?
The one I have is PCI.
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-19 14:07 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
@ 2000-07-19 15:17 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: Milan Zimmermann @ 2000-07-19 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
"Douglas A. Gwyn" wrote:
>
> Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > - is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version?
>
> The one I have is PCI.
hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
support - I hope not ...
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
@ 2000-08-13 2:46 Russ Cox
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From: Russ Cox @ 2000-08-13 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans, geoff
You can do it, for sure, you just might not
like the refresh rate depending on the card.
The VGA people don't seem to think 1800x1350
is a standard mode (probably because it isn't)
but I did see something close to it on a Rage128
box recently.
Russ
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
@ 2000-08-13 1:02 geoff
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From: geoff @ 2000-08-13 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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Will the xpert 98 do 1800x1350? ATI's own web pages
seem to imply that it will only go up 1600x1200.
I wonder what its dot clock is.
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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:04:51 -0400
Message-ID: <200007132004.QAA12290@smtp2.fas.harvard.edu>
Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.
Russ
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-19 15:57 jmk
@ 2000-07-19 18:56 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: Milan Zimmermann @ 2000-07-19 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
>
> Milan Zimmermann <mzimmerm@worldchat.com>:
> hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
> ...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
> support - I hope not ...
>
> Plan 9 doesn't care.
Thanks
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
@ 2000-07-19 15:57 jmk
2000-07-19 18:56 ` Milan Zimmermann
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From: jmk @ 2000-07-19 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Milan Zimmermann <mzimmerm@worldchat.com>:
hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
support - I hope not ...
Plan 9 doesn't care.
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-14 9:19 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
@ 2000-07-14 17:52 ` George Bronnikov
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From: George Bronnikov @ 2000-07-14 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> > I have trouble configuring my RagePro. The only working (sorta)
> > mode is 640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen
> > repeated twice.
> Assuming you have a good multisync monitor and told plan9.ini
> about it, that's the sort of thing that happens for an unsupported
> flavor of ATI chip. (I got from 3 to 5 partial panels when using
> a RAGE-128.) What is the specific product name of the video board,
> and the part name stamped on the controller chip? It might not be
> what you think it is..
On the video board:
PN 109-40200-01
AMC ver 2.0
On the chip:
3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X
215R3BUA22
B9Y73
9747SS
TAIWAN
(Sorry, I have no idea which part of all this may be significant).
XFree86 runs on it using the Mach64 driver.
George
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-13 22:24 ` George Bronnikov
@ 2000-07-14 9:19 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2000-07-14 17:52 ` George Bronnikov
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From: Douglas A. Gwyn @ 2000-07-14 9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
George Bronnikov wrote:
> I have trouble configuring my RagePro. The only working (sorta)
> mode is 640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen
> repeated twice.
Assuming you have a good multisync monitor and told plan9.ini
about it, that's the sort of thing that happens for an unsupported
flavor of ATI chip. (I got from 3 to 5 partial panels when using
a RAGE-128.) What is the specific product name of the video board,
and the part name stamped on the controller chip? It might not be
what you think it is..
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
2000-07-13 20:04 Russ Cox
@ 2000-07-13 22:24 ` George Bronnikov
2000-07-14 9:19 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
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From: George Bronnikov @ 2000-07-13 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Russ Cox wrote:
> Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
> With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
> so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.
>
> Russ
I have trouble configuring my RagePro. The only working (sorta) mode is
640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen repeated
twice. Definitely not a pleasant working environment.
Is there any known cure?
George
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* Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
@ 2000-07-13 20:04 Russ Cox
2000-07-13 22:24 ` George Bronnikov
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From: Russ Cox @ 2000-07-13 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.
Russ
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