From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:23:13 +0000 To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Building GCC From: "Paulo Pocinho" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080123111516.GB12528@paju.oulu.fi> <8fbf4ceb-5334-4fa0-8b96-1c31cd6225f7@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <479888B0.6030304@proweb.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <479888B0.6030304@proweb.co.uk> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.25 (Win32) Topicbox-Message-UUID: 35cdc6f0-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 >> When we look back, from a Plan 9 user perspective, we crumble in agony >> just to realise we have been slaves/dominated by pop tech all these >> years. > Who is this "we" of which you speak? > Certainly, not a direct response to Christopher. :) I aimed to the people, of whom, by using GCC, enter Plan 9 dimension and seem to have this compulsory impetus to carry their pop tech on their backs. Furthermore, by refering to Rob's statement, I was aiming to the very essence (and consequence) of bringing that pop tech into Plan 9. Why spend energy to support existing standards; forget innovation; forget the propper way to implement/design/use (because we must be "standard";...? Browsers, flash...? Is that all there is to it? Can there be nothing else? Can there be no evasion to the complexity of old systems and invent, perhaps, a new interface? Is "WEB 2.0" (HTML 5, etc.) the best thing we can have today? What about tomorrow? Why should *anyone* focus on "re-deploying" popular technology instead of using Plan 9 to "Make industry want" something else?