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From: "Eris Discordia" <eris.discordia@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Google search of the day
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:14:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.t6i6injkc6yvfe@computer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abc7b54dd866c4c01d18b430daf4c27e@lsub.org>

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:28:03 -0000, Fco. J. Ballesteros <nemo@lsub.org>
wrote:

> Children die soon in that one. This one is worse,
> even the child starts spawning and so on...
>
> while(1) fork();
>

I mistook your reference in the book and copy-pasted the code for the more
benign runaway process.

And, thanks for having written the book and made it available online. I
could not have begun learning Plan 9 without your book.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:51:59 -0000, Iruata Souza <iru.muzgo@gmail.com>
wrote:

> not if the pids are randomized as in OpenBSD.

Did not know that. On FreeBSD it seems like the pids tend to grow as the
number of processes grows. Had someone known the highest pid before the
runaway process was executed, they could have killed any process with a
higher pid.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:27:19 -0000, erik quanstrom <quanstro@coraid.com>
wrote:

> i don't see an easy systematic solution to this type of problem.

Some sort of rate control? Say, at most 5 processes per second. Of course,
that would also interfere with a busy webserver that spawns worker
threads/child processes for new connections. That could be solved by
running the webserver as a user belonging to the legitimately busy class.
Perhaps the question is, "what, other than human discretion,
differentiates a runaway process from a normal albeit busy one?" There is
very little evidence to distinguish a loop striving to compute the largest
prime number from a loop computing the factorial of 1234567890, an
altogether more useless task :-)

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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-13 22:03 [9fans] quote " erik quanstrom
2008-02-13 23:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:24 ` [9fans] Google search " dave.l
2008-02-13 23:31   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:41     ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-13 23:49       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-13 23:59     ` john
2008-02-14  0:04       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-14  6:11         ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-15 17:39         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-02-14 16:45       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-14 17:09         ` john
2008-02-14 17:27           ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-15  9:50             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-15 11:49               ` Alf
2008-02-15 13:15               ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-15 14:56                 ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-15 15:44                   ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 16:07                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-15 16:43                       ` maht
2008-02-15 17:35                         ` ron minnich
2008-02-15 18:14                           ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-15 18:37                           ` maht
2008-02-15 17:39                       ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 19:05                         ` maht
2008-02-15 20:11                           ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 20:18                             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15 20:49                             ` maht
2008-02-16 23:32                               ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-15 23:37                         ` [9fans] Non-stack-based calling conventions Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-02-15 23:39                           ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15 23:47                             ` Paweł Lasek
2008-02-16  0:23                               ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-16 23:32                                 ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-16 23:41                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-16 23:49                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-17  0:04                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-17 13:30                                     ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-17 15:04                                       ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-17 21:43                                         ` Uriel
2008-02-17 23:58                                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-18  1:54                                             ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  3:43                                               ` erik quanstrom
2008-02-18  4:31                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  4:40                                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  6:22                                               ` Robert William Fuller
2008-02-18  7:23                                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18  8:38                                                   ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-22 10:02                                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 19:35                                                       ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-18  8:30                                                 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-02-18  8:44                                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-18 18:50                                                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-02-18 21:53                                                   ` Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
2008-02-18 22:55                                                     ` y i y u s
2008-02-18 23:46                                                       ` Uriel
2008-02-18 22:14                                                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18 22:16                                                     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18 22:32                                                       ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-02-20 11:39                                                   ` maht
2008-02-20 17:19                                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-22 10:02                                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 10:02                                                   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-18 22:13                                                 ` LiteStar numnums
2008-02-18  4:44                                             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  4:46                                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-18  5:03                                                 ` Uriel
2008-02-17 16:08                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2008-02-17 22:03                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-02-22 10:01                                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 14:07                                         ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-22 10:01                                     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-22 10:01                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-16  8:29                               ` Lluís Batlle
2008-02-17 23:09                                 ` Chad Dougherty
2008-02-18 21:50                                 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-22 10:02                                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-26 21:30                               ` Paweł Lasek
2008-02-26 22:00                                 ` maht
2008-02-26 22:32                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-26 23:15                                     ` Uriel
2008-02-26 22:33                                   ` Brantley Coile
2008-02-26 22:46                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2008-02-27  4:26                                 ` lucio
2008-02-27  6:52                                   ` ron minnich
2008-02-27 17:57                                     ` lucio
2008-02-28  9:33                                     ` Bill Gunshannon
2008-02-28  9:58                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2008-02-28 14:15                                       ` Bill Gunshannon
2008-02-14 17:14         ` [9fans] Google search of the day Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 17:28           ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-02-14 20:14             ` Eris Discordia [this message]
2008-02-14 20:30               ` Patrick Kristiansen
2008-02-14 20:38                 ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 22:09                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-02-15  9:00                     ` Eris Discordia
2008-02-14 17:51           ` Iruata Souza
2008-02-15  9:31             ` sqweek
2008-02-18  9:48               ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2008-02-18  9:57                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2008-02-19  9:17                 ` sqweek

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