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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <DAGwyn@null.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 overcommits memory?
Date: Tue,  4 Sep 2007 08:47:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pYadnUor98dRUUHbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d7c705e9c3355e723c8f69677bf2d851@quanstro.net>

>> malloc just moves the brk, but the backing pages don't get
>> allocated until the pages are accessed (during memset).

"erik quanstrom" <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote in message
news:d7c705e9c3355e723c8f69677bf2d851@quanstro.net...
> i'm just suprised that plan 9 overcommits.  this makes
> this code nonsensical from user space
> if((p = malloc(Size)) == 0)

Indeed, when I discovered that Linux was overcommitting memory
in much the same way, which in my view is erroneous design, I
added an optional feature to my portable malloc implementation
that (on systems neeing it) would touch every allocated page
before reporting success.  (During the touch loop a trap catcher
would set a flag that would be tested after the loop to determine
whether there had ben any faults.)  malloc really shouldn't have
to do this, but if you're insisting on overcommitment in the OS
then the library malloc() needs to do it.  Otherwise, applications
that try to be careful may still fail "randomly", which is intolerable.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-04  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-31 11:41 erik quanstrom
2007-09-02 21:27 ` Russ Cox
2007-09-03  0:43   ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04  8:47     ` Douglas A. Gwyn [this message]
2007-09-04 13:39       ` David Leimbach
2007-09-04 14:41         ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04 15:54           ` David Leimbach
2007-09-04 17:37     ` sqweek
2007-09-04 18:10       ` ron minnich
2007-09-04 18:53         ` sqweek
2007-09-03  1:23   ` Scott Schwartz
2007-09-03  1:47     ` ron minnich
2007-09-03  2:11       ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03  2:11       ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04  8:48         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-03  5:28       ` Scott Schwartz
2007-09-03  3:38 geoff
2007-09-03  5:35 ` Scott Schwartz
2007-09-03  6:05   ` Uriel
2007-09-03 13:33   ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 17:09     ` john
2007-09-03 17:17       ` Gorka Guardiola
2007-09-03 17:25         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-09-03 17:30         ` john
2007-09-03 19:47           ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-03 19:46         ` Uriel
2007-09-03 19:54           ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-03 19:54             ` Uriel
2007-09-03 20:34               ` geoff
2007-09-03 20:16             ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 17:32       ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 17:39         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-09-03 17:43         ` john
2007-09-03 17:45           ` john
2007-09-03 19:52             ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-05  8:33         ` sqweek
2007-09-04  8:48       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-03 18:13   ` geoff
2007-09-03 20:17     ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 20:48       ` geoff
2007-09-03 22:01         ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 22:43           ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-03 23:51             ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04  0:04               ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-04 14:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04 15:07                   ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-04 15:18                     ` ron minnich
2007-09-04 15:18                     ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-05  8:48                       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-05 10:53                         ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-06  8:42                           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-09-06 17:15                             ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-06 19:38                               ` ron minnich
2007-09-06 20:18                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-06 23:37                                 ` Steve Simon
2007-09-07  3:09                                 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2007-09-07  4:09                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2007-09-07  4:25                                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-09-07  4:37                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2007-09-07  4:43                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-09-10 15:24                                         ` roger peppe
2007-09-07 10:55                                     ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-04 23:32                     ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 21:16       ` Charles Forsyth
2007-09-03 21:19         ` ron minnich
2007-09-03 21:41           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2007-09-03 21:51           ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 13:21 ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 14:01   ` Sape Mullender
2007-09-03 14:32     ` erik quanstrom
2007-09-03 15:28       ` Sape Mullender
2007-09-04  4:32         ` lucio
2007-09-04  7:23 ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-09-04  8:48 ` Douglas A. Gwyn

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