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From: Jonadab the Unsightly One <jonadab@bright.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] What makes Plan 9 unique?
Date: Tue,  6 Nov 2001 10:22:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wkhes8d38g.fsf@jonadab.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wkr8rdz3fy.fsf@jonadab.homeip.net>

Someone writes:
> Jonadab the Unsightly One <jonadab@bright.net> writes:
> > dhog@plan9.bell-labs.com (David Gordon Hogan) writes:
> > > Like when I go to edit a mistyped word in a web page edit box,
> > > and as soon as I've moused over the first character, the
> > > selection expands to the entire word.  The neighbours must
> > > wonder why I'm swearing so much.
> >
> > Clearly you are using an inferior editor.  Do not lay this at the
> > feet of the operating system.  You could download and install a
> > perfectly good editor, and then you would not have this problem.
> >
> > Windows has its _own_ problems.  It does not need to have the
> > flaws of other software attributed to it as well.
>
> Woah!  High flame alert on all counts; asbestos underwear: engaged.

No, it's true:  Windows has some inherent problems.  I say this as a
Windows user.  It does not need the flaws of inferior text editors
laid at its feet.  There are perfectly good editors available for
Windows; you don't have to use the ones that come with.  A flaw in a
"web page edit box" in Windows does not constitute a flaw in Windows.

Problems with the "Neighborhood" implementation of smb, bizarre
behavior when there are non-FAT logical partitons, a dynamic library
implementation that breeds version conflicts, lack of any protection
against wild pointers in one process scribbling over another process,
these are flaws in Windows.  A web page edit box that doesn't do the
right thing, that's a flaw in the editor in question.

> Really, you're not going to make friends posting
> pro-emacs stuff to 9fans.

Really?  What editor do y'all use?  What are its strengths?  What does
it do better than, for example, Emacs?  (Apart from taking less disk
space and less RAM, of course.)  I always like to check out
alternatives...

But the OP was talking about a Windows system, so an editor specific
to plan9 wouldn't be an option in that case, unless there's a Windows
port.  But there are lots of different editors freely available, so
there's no sense using one you don't like.  I don't.  I deleted
Notepad from my Windows system years ago, because I need an editor
with the power to do pretty much anything.  (Yes, I know it's bloated.
But since it substitutes adequately for at least half a dozen
applications, that's somewhat justified.)

--
Jonadab, avid multibooter looking for a new OS to try out.


  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-06 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29 21:28 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-05 14:59 ` Jonadab the Unsightly One
2001-11-06 10:22   ` Jonadab the Unsightly One [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-07  6:34 Russ Cox
2001-11-07  1:02 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-06 17:08 anothy
2001-11-06 16:45 Russ Cox
2001-11-06 17:53 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-06 18:28   ` William Josephson
2001-11-07  2:46 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-06 11:01 geoff
2001-11-05 22:14 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-06 10:22 ` Jonadab the Unsightly One
2001-10-29 20:54 David Gordon Hogan
2001-10-29 18:54 presotto
2001-10-29 13:07 bwc
2001-10-29  1:56 okamoto
2001-10-26 17:09 forsyth
2001-10-26 16:58 presotto
2001-10-29 10:16 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-10-29 20:54   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-10-30 16:50   ` Dan Cross
2001-10-26 15:01 Russ Cox
2001-10-26 16:48 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-29  9:04 ` pac
2001-10-25 11:56 Russ Cox
2001-10-26  9:25 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-25  9:00 Matt Senecal
2001-10-25  9:36 ` Lucio De Re
2001-10-26  9:25   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-26 14:03     ` Matt Senecal
2001-10-26 15:36 ` Borja Marcos

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