From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from b.painless.aa.net.uk ([81.187.30.52]) by ur; Thu Aug 11 04:48:20 EDT 2016 Received: from 10.190.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.190.10] helo=quintile.net) by b.painless.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1bXlee-0002vL-B2 for 9front@9front.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:47:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.70] ([86.157.132.139]) by quintile.net; Thu Aug 11 09:47:52 BST 2016 Subject: Re: [9front] inquery: plans for phasing out cpu, rx and import References: <735bd46159bae3ce5da21ce3c13b9321@felloff.net> <335d7a70-6e7f-429b-8248-d2997ee7743c@email.android.com> <20160809153307.GA39931@wopr> From: Steve Simon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13G35) In-Reply-To: <20160809153307.GA39931@wopr> Message-Id: <00E66543-E527-4AC8-8756-4022A255FB6B@quintile.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:47:51 +0100 To: 9front@9front.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: leveraged factory base framework yep, still on the labs code base. btw. is there a documented way to jump ship to 9 front? -Steve > On 9 Aug 2016, at 16:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:09:41AM -0400, stanley lieber wrote: >>=20 >> So we keep things like ftp and nfs clients in the base system but remove t= he ability to talk to Plan 9? >>=20 >=20 > I didn't see this as removing support for a protocol so much as removing > an older version of the protocol -- like not shipping support for nfsv1 > or whatever. I have reconsidered and I agree, we should keep them. >=20 >> Disabling the listeners on 9front is obvious, and since Plan 9 is dead, m= aintenance is not really needed, but why remove it, exactly? Just to feel "c= lean"? >=20 > Originally I supported removing them because they were completely > superseded by rcpu et al; if what we have is sufficient, it would > simplify code maintenance and documentation, presumably, to remove the > cruft. >=20 >> We still keep a lot of other dirty stuff, specifically so we can talk to o= ther outmoded servers that are not even Plan 9. Maybe Plan 9 systems are so r= are it doesn't matter, but this policy seems quite randomly applied. >=20 > This is what made me reconsider -- as long as sources is up, I don't > like the idea of losing access to labs contrib. Obviously we could > make it available with our tools... >=20 > ... on the other hand, when was the last time any of us saw a labs plan > 9 installation that wasn't some transient nerd totem, like a raspberry > pi or something? =20 >=20 > Anyone on this list touch labs plan 9 on the regular? >=20 > khm