From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ds.inri.net ([107.191.103.21]) by ur; Tue Aug 9 13:56:12 EDT 2016 Received: from [10.223.88.163] ([166.175.57.96]) by ds; Tue Aug 9 13:56:11 EDT 2016 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9front] inquery: plans for phasing out cpu, rx and import From: stanley lieber Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:56:06 -0400 To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: <05638c9d-a2c6-4437-b87e-12d11e887b71@email.android.com> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: injection-aware element method-scale backend cinap_lenrek@felloff=2Enet wrote: >> We still keep a lot of other dirty st= uff, specifically so we can talk >to other outmoded servers that are not ev= en Plan 9=2E Maybe Plan 9 >systems are so rare it doesn't matter, but this = policy seems quite >randomly applied=2E > >correct, but theres a difference= there=2E cpu and import are our native >plan9 protocols=2E for foreign pro= tocols you cannot do much, if they >are bad and widely deployed=2E while cp= u and import deployment is >assumingly >much smaller as we used it mostly o= urselfs=2E so the responsibility of >cleaning up the mess is on us i think= =2E=2E=2E before anyone gets hurt=2E > >disabling the listener is a good fi= rst step, maybe many people will >whine about it=2E but i doubt it=2E lets = see=2E > >speaking of other outmoded servers, openssh deleted sshv1 protoco= l >support=2E > >> sl > >-- >cinap 9front users don't need old cpu at all= =2E The only reason I recommend keeping it is so we can continue talking to= Plan 9=2E Those old Plan 9 systems don't have the option of using rcpu and= friends instead of old cpu=2E It just seems weird to chop off those legacy= systems completely, since the Plan 9 world does not consist solely of 9fro= nt=2E I agree that the number of Plan 9 systems is decreasing and it proba= bly doesn't really matter=2E In the end, anyone who really needs old cpu on= 9front will be capable of grabbing it from /n/extra=2E Pointing out that = ssh1 is deprecated is not really a like comparison, because ssh servers now= mostly offer ssh2=2E Old Plan 9 cannot offer rcpu=2E sl