From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17681 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2022 01:43:13 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Aug 2022 01:43:13 -0000 Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com ([209.85.160.182]) by 9front; Fri Aug 19 21:38:42 -0400 2022 Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id y18so4545059qtv.5 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:38:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:from:to:cc; bh=WA8IekTBXJkHEEokp0mEQrdcRfE7U4PkQsP1LgDNL20=; b=oInPPRwhQG6RaTBs7INi9Yb+ooh9mixVy88XaBBM6K2HtVSk+MY9YmZfrrFSQolK9c j7/NOWTWWU/1uy5d4K10odRnLQ+tDb5ZltQce8DVGLH/uOOiriAIBin67Z/pxbCEdv+k jtyK8gaAuMZLF/pMpEgkhgXgIPDGy1GZs6vG0zs5yMmbU7JtJsGkaUfMM+F+jV7s6YM1 6Vm95JThf9wd7bh5vh5BmwG3tLm0AW0qqudI2rJN4O3vr6cPM7bBXtWynL4syeCaZKa1 v2mftwJWkqBSCcEZm+OtarIv2Q5kY5ASrhWq3pP+OMfVNgYMiEkAn85MUCn6pimDKpiA 1FkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=WA8IekTBXJkHEEokp0mEQrdcRfE7U4PkQsP1LgDNL20=; b=JZcgo7EO5T4TaSpguAkuZc4jzzJZQzMceYm9TLtBulKpY8ODmMjrj3KvUIZ9iSqksb DS7uQBRM9mt/dWKwV88up2EkzcYh5yzdha3PgCivcLFFzLSW/Ys4uCmSAaLASZ8MGeJ0 lEpCxHc3JOAvwcd6ATFOwAa9PTrHwg6TrKD/hdrq+mTNiDG5MvgtBL1jeFDBUqf5ic+8 KrPjw3e27Gyk2CXh3fnDOdaOL5Zs5W7pc8fTFOv9PSxtSYEGugOxakOE/tRTv4xjsykh bP9jXFK6WyfKJxwi/8MaXXBvi/tkKYxW08URzDCtHe0z8y42ph9rf7i2X1IMg4VSoPxf goAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3ju71tCd0juFiVSF47vf3eJGyZDB2iWQ36ar3OaJDeGUqAFPOV 28zEQnJSRt/HhAAY4oewB7iGnXpE2Eg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR6AmIXUbhBm/kumjAaOpp3jnZJaAsWk396rXVf0/ajGgipClv6foOWa2j9nv28TWgg64XZIzA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5fcc:0:b0:343:4dd6:b388 with SMTP id k12-20020ac85fcc000000b003434dd6b388mr8557651qta.586.1660959518452; Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-67-184-39-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [67.184.39.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g13-20020ac87d0d000000b00342f844e30fsm4481676qtb.31.2022.08.19.18.38.37 for <9front@9front.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Aug 2022 18:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiao-Yong Jin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 20:38:36 -0500 References: <2C699399-ED48-4557-9601-08FAC3C461D6@quintile.net> To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: <2C699399-ED48-4557-9601-08FAC3C461D6@quintile.net> Message-Id: <0DCE23F2-778D-4B16-AA0E-5621F133BBB5@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: stable replication callback deep-learning extension-based generator Subject: Re: [9front] hackathon writeup Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > On Aug 19, 2022, at 2:08 AM, Steve Simon wrote: >=20 > having worked on cinaps linux emu about 10 years ago, trying to catch = up with linux I think you are absolutely correct here. sad but true. >=20 >> The engineering cost to >> virtualize a platform and boot Linux on it is lower than the = engineering >> cost to keep up with whatever the hell the Linux horde throws at the >> kernel this week. >>=20 >> khm Would bsdemu be an easier target? Open, Free, or Net?=