From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org ([206.124.132.107]) by ewsd; Thu Mar 19 23:00:35 EDT 2020 Received: from abbatoir.fios-router.home (pool-162-83-132-245.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [162.83.132.245]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 41da4fd0 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO); Thu, 19 Mar 2020 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <130A2579098A9D00FD34FFDA8EE1ED9C@eigenstate.org> To: sl@stanleylieber.com, 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] mothra: proposal Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 20:00:23 -0700 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: managed general-purpose-scale session frontend I'll split this into separate patches for separate review/testing, and we can decide how to proceed change by change. It's going to take me a few days. >> I'm mostly ok with this, though I'm not a big fan of losing the >> "command" vs "body" visual distinction. > > there are still a couple of lines separating those sections: > > http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/mothra/img/20200319.png > > but i'm not opposed to tweaking this. my biggest desire is to > minimize the ui's decoration, and emphasize the content. I'll post a tweaked version, keeps the bluegreen background for the url section, and removes the lines between the menu items. >> I don't like theming, but I like the propagation of dark mode >> flags even less. If we want this, libdraw needs to signal to >> programs which colors they should use, without a '-b' flag. > > i'm not capable of implementing this. also, by this logic we'd > need to change existing behavior of rio ad vt. would we delete > the existing flags? i'm not married to -b, but i'm also not > advocating full-blown theming. (fwiw, i also don't quite > understand the vehement objection to it; standardizing it > in one library seems like the right approach.) I think you underestimate yourself. And, yes, if we have a "dark mode", I'd want to remove '-b'. > caveat: > > mothra sometimes only knows relative urls (because some web > pages only offer relative urls as links), and relies on webfs > to figure out the correct request to match whatever it clicks > on. this sometimes breaks plumbing, as i implemented it. > > sl Mm. we can probably read the 'parsed/url' before plumbing, but I'm more interested in being able to plumb non-url text from the page.