Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland?

[David Leimbach <leimy2k@icloud.com>]

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>> While it's theoretically possible to do mmap over 9p, it's not going to
>> be a good experience.

Is it substantially worse than mmap’ing over NFS? I can imagine a lot of panic or deadlock cases but…. Yeah that’s true for NFS also. At least a core dump.

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>> Quoth Willow Liquorice <willow@howhill.com>:
>>> I presume the Wayland spec is talking about mmap(2) under Linux, which
>>> allows you to treat a section of a file as you would program memory.
>>> 
>>> On 04/08/2024 21:04, Eli Cohen wrote:
>>>> also as far as mmap goes and what it even means, I have no idea, but a
>>>> stupid younger version of me, who was myself at the time, managed to
>>>> change this audio driver
>>>> http://git.9front.org/plan9front/plan9front/HEAD/sys/src/9/pc/audioac97.c/raw
>>>> to support some mmap'ed I/O ac97 chips. the part where it says ismmio
>>>> = 1, that's a flag that those chips are mmap'ed ac97 chips. but now
>>>> I'm older and still honestly have no idea what you're talking about
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:59 PM Eli Cohen <echoline@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> actually, drawing fast locally (and GPU stuff especially for
>>>>> computation) is definitely a plan 9 concept too and is also being
>>>>> worked on separately from wayland, and possibly on linux... so... plan
>>>>> 9 is an OS for networks that may include plan 9 machines, linux
>>>>> machines, iPhones, etc... it's a "unix made out of a network of
>>>>> computers" not a "network made out of unix computers"
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 12:54 PM Eli Cohen <echoline@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> always better to be a willow that bends than the strongest oak in a storm :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> there's a common misconception that plan 9 is an OS for a computer. plan 9 is an OS for a network. drawing fast locally is not a plan 9 concept. plan 9 is a 9P multiplexer. a wayland shim for linux/mac/bsd/etc that renders to draw somewhere else on the network would be good and appreciated and a relevant plan 9 concept and people are working on it... but for a fast local wayland implementation, that's what linux is, and linux can be and is a part of plan 9 which is an OS for a network
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>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024, 12:46 PM Stuart Morrow <morrow.stuart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do you share memory over rcpu?
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