From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by ur; Thu Apr 27 11:47:56 EDT 2017 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811DD20AFF for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:47:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=Zt+8PA3Z2T8O7On+GzPJHeZA6mvKT9FxLw3XkD4u00E=; b=qaskWB+0 6ZpG15UganjJ1ook5gahlX+xuShRjvsnpUmQs9Zj6vbPkj4O5fhbjl3UYmczx8Ml 73NcDQbRLRMAX/8ZTz9fpM/eTqzX6w8c5em1qKjJieHW6NdbLXU64zFACLl8+JMR XSwBEEVMehWquknACdkNRUxaAllEoNhcyx8AdHbd9Hbl4Gvx8XY3yh3PAYLppG3h TdMlnYCthruXoS45pcqo1VxanSFkZhEDFIb1n0v6AyLpmW0KN8iXJeswUnMujKki 0DIW//rGAoMLIdZh0PWtCSfqAm/2wGx27IxnLtC2TNHYWsdksij7F+odtGuWR+Jq 8dJZz0Fi4ResdQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Zt+8PA3Z2T8O7On+GzPJHeZA6mvKT 9FxLw3XkD4u00E=; b=L35uoGTeNtMAaZIoV9kO2Yyd4wxXsOboBMWlAnxXkXsmM 8xNftWPoslPmGRL0pdG/gUFjPC4vJrQSW51eZ3VJWTPrhkKONbToTpkwEweJ1PPG jGiu35DRGC3VexBbVoNRfK3WHZDof2F4mphe1bznY1DDnVqudAk9LghlClK6kVLw HCyZJ71Fbxq/4pKxHDT0kZ8DY/KLfdWB7ARUNBak0maydWGMafYh2JpqUhm/ogG7 COv6Yy5JmSnd+RFBgzCG/yhFJXaSQk8udfPoYWj59SPbeUW/5lEmz4LzBBWmqs/K zR8j1l7+X8SJTsPDfXBKk9pBxL8mnNYpGL7uf7l1w== X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 586F69EA71; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1493308073.87218.958296632.78E51EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: 9front@9front.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-88a795dc Subject: OT: the story of bywater basic Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:47:53 +0100 List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extended optimized deep-learning solution i just found this and thought it might amuse some of the minds here. 8. THE STORY OF BYWATER BASIC This program was originally begun in 1982 by my grandmother, Mrs. Verda Spell of Beaumont, TX. She was writing the program using an ANSI C compiler on an Osborne I CP/M computer and although my grandfather (Lockwood Spell) had bought an IBM PC with 256k of RAM my grandmother would not use it, paraphrasing George Herbert to the effect that "He who cannot in 64k program, cannot in 512k." She had used Microsoft BASIC and although she had nothing against it she said repeatedly that she didn't understand why Digital Research didn't "sue the socks off of Microsoft" for version 1.0 of MSDOS and so I reckon that she hoped to undercut Microsoft's entire market and eventually build a new software empire on the North End of Beaumont. Her programming efforts were cut tragically short when she was thrown from a Beaumont to Port Arthur commuter train in the summer of 1986. I found the source code to bwBASIC on a single-density Osborne diskette in her knitting bag and eventually managed to have it all copied over to a PC diskette. I have revised it slightly prior to this release. You should know, though, that I myself am an historian, not a programmer. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bwbasic/ version 2.2 is simple but slow and rather featureless. i didn't look at newer versions. the only reason i'm looking at it at all is because it came my way via freedos and can run programs like a shell. if anyone feels a desperate need for basic under plan 9 (lol), it should compile with any ansi c compiler. -- Linux? I used ext4 for a few years. In proportion to the time spent using it, I lost as much data to it as I lost to the very worst released version of reiserfs.