From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by ewsd; Fri Sep 14 08:29:23 EDT 2018 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70D421D2C for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:29:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=0GAsAT6KKMaIISy/1+vy/BSdrqN2X se5AizoNrfUYBI=; b=fZLohaLMYYRqZf9tXvrrwfYjfd5TSjQo3hE0eCWF/SKYU ChMnaeX80W2da0W5VniEart2xsx4cN1xgoWdH6PlvxDvtNB9ELRzxcbvbWXcJzmw 2OyBzL6o4DnkA3dt++A8vgbfqxV2VHw0ZsVkltzBEVlbuGnZ2FeyX2eD5LM74gCg bp/kkbHmDnO3n0n8RI3h0HocfWS1tINdUUWXirrfHYkHdgsfuffgIAS57if6Vr7q qp5vIQKdnYQKEfZyr7xqi9KIi5ii4TrlVz10scqihJftTq9Teh4MGlc8D2qz6PL+ ZIZr6Ive11DYG7XTgO2yhUAlmwskQl20MeIFhtKWA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=0GAsAT 6KKMaIISy/1+vy/BSdrqN2Xse5AizoNrfUYBI=; b=Es89kjAfXJA3Tst0/R5LTO ItFK5DXkTscUkwlde7hxDPdC17LPSPVkphgaqgunyUrizkHbXqY1TRavA9Jcl6NX P7hktcRrdazJd/y3CtGQdphlzWBFAi3mfc4zyMc2GULYAfzogkxKZiW+iQlBnIGo sL47l11yd6FuCnCqumOG978M7B03ZZ83+hoAfMAslyEJJB/M0tvMAAuKCqPpDGJ2 Q5PQOy2ZVUI4xq94BeOcPmSfZadTN1W4Dk4TCaCFr5snITCEqLJK87B8UTW7qVYV D6gkBseG/ltudiWmVCxnKJd14r3PcBkqFH9AsIg7hbSJUw1/DCMVNuEGsZe0LXOg == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4853A621E9; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1536928161.991441.1508034536.1B666595@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Gardener To: 9front@9front.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-e556cd15 References: <73056CCE-BB9C-46D6-B826-3659B3AE1494@yahoo.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:29:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [9front] bounty for 9pi update for 9front In-Reply-To: <73056CCE-BB9C-46D6-B826-3659B3AE1494@yahoo.ca> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: table method On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Chris McGee wrote: > I had only wireless and minimal peripherals on my pis (keyboard and=20 > mouse). I tried different power supplied including battery power to rule= =20 > out bad power or noise. I could reproduce the problem on both pi2 and=20 > pi3 quite reliably and also two other people noticed it too. Pi1 worked=20 > fine though. >=20 > The symptom was very strange phantom keyboard key presses and button=20 > clicks. They would start at random points in time and even sometimes=20 > during boot. I traced it all of the way to the USB debugging the HID=20 > packets. At the lowest level it appeared as though the keyboard was=20 > actually sending Shift-Ctrl-A/B keypresses. I was expecting some kind of= =20 > memory corruption type problems due to mulicore but it didn=E2=80=99t see= m so. >=20 > I think I finally threw in the towel once I saw that even raspbian/Linux= =20 > have USB hacks abound and state on their website that not all USB=20 > devices may work with it. That and the lack of any good hardware specs=20 > on how the controller works. >=20 > I=E2=80=99m now in search of better hardware and left with a bad impressi= on of=20 > raspberry pi and USB itself. I hear from some hardware folks that PCIe=20 > and Ethernet are much better and Thunderbolt is a dumpster fire. Maybe=20 > there will be a riscv dev board soon. I had a bad impression of the Raspberry Pi from the beginning. I sort-of a= ssumed Pi 2 & 3 were better due to sheer mass of peer pressure, but, well, = thanks for stating the facts before I bought one. I just can't understand = the demented hurricane of enthusiasm generated by these garbage fire comput= ers! You know what? When I publish my own OS (ha ha), I'll put a filter into th= e mailing list (when I get around to it), catching all messages mentioning = Raspberry Pi or RPi to insert something like, "WARNING! This email mentio= ns Raspberry Pi! It may be trying to suck us into the demented maelstrom o= f enthusiasm generated by these garbage fire computers. Exercise caution a= nd critical thinking. Remember the principles of rational development." XD In a different humour, would it make sense to bit-bang ps/2 interfaces with= the RPi's GPIO pins? Or other serial interfaces.