From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]) by ewsd; Sat Dec 15 08:41:51 EST 2018 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F07E51 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:41:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:in-reply-to:subject:references; s=fm1; bh=7vu I6PUbGOeuCjjmoSc0AAxFG6pN8jczv5xqIOa1mDQ=; b=gZBP2QfZVijFnp9FHk4 TuhTzQY6ITp0wT4POV9ZP6bLdjZ2uOa0sM1UqD9jI5tZhnpnep5xRQ7EmHUrX5yu Tn21ZA5bCRHgP+Is2mbDJOvpiNK+uhYMLf44TcuIGRqp8Iwl+oSREEmvVELPcO29 iGDspUswanqoWxILTdKgGp09Jx00qrQSs9yMw7BXApPkxiU726vgNY0S/4SgBjaN rzAV2hCHuB96jzFju8BmDv749Od77JKsZiLhr4yDnE8r+lTkkL5j+1tXoEmFSlwO ACTI59ygzung7ep+0ra2BVJF9u+FsinSpEzBI9iGFhKqm2cEHkxmMwKSi+DXrzYq +Bw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=7vuI6PUbGOeuCjjmoSc0AAxFG6pN8jczv5xqIOa1m DQ=; b=uI2WrZvWfm7m/uV6KkZZJhSzvGReFNW5Iaty+Khf9PQMrleWu6ehUUk8Q wjzBf0fBxFSIwjAJ7LRPW2kPASzOakI0PxRRdfYEHrWLAhvVz4Zlaze3jmRNg2Ly Plq6tTVL8z9ybQg+Ml1dbWNaWnAjn5r+bWQI3/U+fiHm7BVJw+PHl1RmxZNgZf2v UBtGxxF7NHDh2eFk1SZP5+HUFu5fs25XjXbyMTmWKkdn7mPjI9qBb3Ijgf7adsjJ wTMnGgUqYbYDHPNfTGqwzQ7rfaEOF8059d1fNaY3r0gx7hkWFf8/IR6AgRe5+8v6 ad72RzW52/63KtekqGAj5QHRKi88w== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrudehjedgheeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfquhhtnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef tddtnecunecujfgurhepkffhvfgggfgtofffjgfufhesthejredtredtjeenucfhrhhomh epgfhthhgrnhcuifgrrhguvghnvghruceovggvkhgvvgehjeesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhf mheqnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegvvghkvggvheejsehfrghsthhmrghilh drfhhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1E8BF6229D; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:41:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1544881307.448674.1609964648.4FFA116D@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Gardener To: 9front@9front.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2f590f9a Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:41:47 +0000 In-Reply-To: <5E510D7A-84AC-4496-92CC-EDB9DC84A8AD@quintile.net> Subject: Re: [9front] !#&%&^#*@ RIO!!! References: <17EEC15E61EFB48B88CB00D23A8B9C29@felloff.net> <1544735590.2480033.1608550968.639FCEEA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1544786564.3451304.1609061344.7699C980@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1544793790.3481841.1609141000.2CBC7163@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5E510D7A-84AC-4496-92CC-EDB9DC84A8AD@quintile.net> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: mobile software XMPP over XML map/reduce module On Fri, Dec 14, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > Hi, > > having had spinal problems i tried various therapists, alternative and > traditional, and eventually came back to the first one i tried (physio) > whit a different therapist. > > if you give something a good try and it doesn't work,try something, or > someone else. > > don't give up. Thanks Steve! That's encouraging. :) However, there is something else wrong after all. Today I got stressed without any physical problem. I just wanted to remind myself how to handle file read errors and EOF in C, because I haven't done it for a long time. Part of it was vague error documentation in fopen(2) and no error documentation in read(2), so maybe I should establish the Documentation Liberation Front. ;) I like writing, but I can have more fun and get more things done for myself with other languages and systems. The other part was fussing about with error strings. This wouldn't be a problem in APL, which I know and like. APL implementations normally include simple interfaces, which is good for me. (APLX even makes Tk look too complex!) Much the same could be said (with less "like") for Python, and there are other languages which intrigue me and would probably be fun to learn. At a lower level, I would like to build my own string/array library. It would be an intriguing project, but it would fit into Forth slightly better than C due to Forth's simple extensible syntax. I'm thinking I probably should give up on Plan 9 C.