From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10022 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2022 07:16:03 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Apr 2022 07:16:03 -0000 Received: from mail.v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de ([5.45.100.188]) by 4ess; Mon Apr 4 03:05:06 -0400 2022 Received: from phiax.lan (213-204-48-62.bredband.aland.net [213.204.48.62]) by mail.v220210179111140164.quicksrv.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B639D829C4 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:04:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <166B798FA5F1B35E40D7D112B731EDA2@pixelheresy.com> To: 9front@9front.org From: "Keith Gibbs" Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 10:04:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: <3a4850eb-8c88-4b03-9d0a-1b9d82dc7aad@www.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: basic strategy metadata hypervisor-aware control Subject: Re: [9front] nntp Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk It's not as much a what as a how. NNTP is nice since it is distributed and decentralized. Since it is open and semi-anonymous, it has one flaw, spam. So yeah, many things an ML can do more nicely, but then you have a single point of failure. I have played around with NNTP on 9 and it is kind of cool. I mean, most of the people still using NNTP are probably using it for warez, but that does mean if you subscribe to an NNTP service, the cost is beyond trivial. Not even using it for files, I subscribe to a decent basic services for like $30 a year. Do I get $30 a year of use out of it, no, not yet, but I would love it if we would have an active group and a few groups I do follow I enjoy (and ignore the spam). I am a big advocate for us going back to old standards (finger, irc, nntp, etc.) for many web services and leaning on newer standards that are in the open spirit of the original internet (xmpp, gemini, etc.). Likewise, I think we are really missing opportunities by not looking for open protocol-based solutions rather than the compulsion of looking toward single vendor or web. Anyway, that is my thought. -pixelheresy Quoth David Arroyo : > What can NNTP do that can't be done with any mailing list? > > David